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My experience and top-rating for D7,

When D6 first came out it was hard to find good comparisons of modules, hosting and integration. The Drupal devs learned from that. With D7 there is clear info available on every aspect that I have explored, and it is 99% functional... That is freakin' awesome!!!

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nodewords

zkrebs's picture

where are you nodewords, or http://drupal.org/project/metatags ?
or at least a stable beta release of views/panels/context/drupal commerce/ubercart (needs views)/rules ?

this is not criticism, i just can't launch a site yet that needs

True, D7 is not production-site ready yet

joedully's picture

For me, Views 3 must be improved before I am willing to launch a D7 production site. The improvements in D7 core (and many other beta release modules) are great, so I expect to start rolling out production D7 sites after a few months when Views enters beta.

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One more need for D7 for "login" on production sites

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I see that "Safer Login" has porting issues :(. Without SSL (on simple low cost sites) this is a very important need (considering the new packet capture tools that are available). I do not see this as a limitation of D7, but a need for both better security awareness and a willingness to invest in SSL.

http://drupal.org/node/986598

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I know this is a little bit

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I know this is a little bit of an old post, but I just noticed it and wanted to say that I am the creator of Safer Login, and I have recently completed a Drupal 7 solution: http://drupal.org/project/encrypt_submissions

It will actually encrypt any form submissions, not just login.

Thanks,
Richard

richardp

zkrebs's picture

Excellent - that looks promising. Does that have applications for ecommerce checkouts?

richardp

zkrebs's picture

Excellent - that looks promising. Does that have applications for ecommerce checkouts?

Well, it could be used for

richardp's picture

Well, it could be used for anything, but as it says on the project page, it isn't a replacement for SSL. If you are doing anything related to ecommerce and money, I think you should break down and buy an SSL certificate. I, for one, would never put my credit card info into a site that didn't have one ;)

Encrypt Submissions is really only meant to give you basic security, it cannot protect from other types of attacks (like man in the middle), whereas SSL certs can.

Richard

Thank you for the update

joedully's picture

Your contribution to Drupal security is essential and appreciated!

- Joe

PS... I have emailed you a note regarding a minor typo on the module page.

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Well

zkrebs's picture

In the absence of views, there is always the age old sql query that one can manually run :)

Mixed Feelings

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I've been playing with D7 while learning Drupal. I like the interface much better than D6. Unlike D6, it didn't take me long mentally map the options available to me as admin. In D6 I noticed some odd things after a default install (like how my first user doesn't have a role, kind of made the "role" concept confusing). All of those oddities have been cleaned up and I don't see any contradictions like before. Way slick!

Where I feel burned is with the modules. I had a high confidence level in the release of D7 due to all the D7 pledges I saw on module pages. Well, the pledges have been removed (no cajones, eh?) and I haven't found a D7 module that's not in alpha or beta (usually alpha!). Admittedly, I haven't downloaded a ton yet.

Even more disappointing is to see that some of the most popular modules are months behind D7 itself. I understand that these will tend to be the most complex, and require more work than some other modules, in terms of making a D7 version. At the same time, how much e-commerce are you going to do without any modules?

I'd love to continue with D7, and learning modules that are going eventually the way of the Dodo seems pointless too. However, I'm not sure that I can wait until March to make something decent without "alpha" modules. At least I know so very little at this point that it doesn't matter in the immediate time-frame.

-

She was a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.

D6 to D7 migration

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Some businesses are offering D6 to D7 migration now (Serverlogic Todd Tomlinson) is the author of the recently published Pro Drupal 7 Development, 3rd Edition, which is currently the #1 selling software development technical book on Amazon.com. I wonder how devs are approaching builds without common modules available. It seams to me that prevalent exotic custom coding could create problems down the road for clients that will need the original coders to handle simple core updates, module integrations and theme changes. Kinda strays from the Drupal way of FOS that is -- standardized, well documented and distributable.

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A list of major bugs in D7

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Here is a helpful list of major bugs in D7. I have a couple of D7 test builds, and as I add/test functionality I go to this list to see if what I am wanting to accomplish has any documented issues.

http://drupal.org/project/issues/drupal?status=Open&priorities=4&version...

An example of this method of look-for-bugs-first is as follows:

I wanted to create some custom menus

I looked for issues and quickly found a workaround for a bug.

http://www.palantir.net/blog/use-menus-drupal-7-you-need-menu-block-module

...and a fix

http://drupal.org/project/menu_block

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Hello, I guess I went about

deejayrig's picture

Hello,
I guess I went about it the wrong way, any input will be greatly appreciated.

scenario had a D6 site and decided to migrate to a different domain
installed backup and migrate and backed the D6

Installed D7 and tried to restore the data on the new robust D7 and i got this
long error
the page did not move
so I had to uninstall D7 and reinstall it, I don't want to take that chance again....

any ideas??

Am I getting this right?

zkrebs's picture

You tried to migrate a D6 site to a new domain, by installing D7 there, importing the data somehow, and attempted an upgrade?

Migrations have complexity
Upgrades have complexity

Take it in 2 steps if you can, so you know where the problems are.

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