Posted by hussainweb on December 15, 2015 at 8:53am
It's time to start planning for DrupalCamp Bangalore 2016. DCB 2015 was a grand success and we need your help to improve it. We are looking to incorporate any suggestions you have regarding the camp. Please comment on this discussion about:
- Format.
- Dates.
- Any other feedback from the previous camp or other camps/cons that we can implement.
Please share this post and encourage everyone to suggest ideas for improvement.

Comments
lets put some timeline for decision making
@hussainweb
Lets work on this time bound. we should announce the dates before end of this year.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
Format & dates
Format - we can stick to same format.
Dates - 23 - 24 APril
Any other feedback from the previous camp or other camps/cons that we can implement - We should plan early for everything. Last one month should be used nothing but promoting the event.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
April is too early & very near to DrupalCon
Neeraj,
Our last camp was in end of July, lets keep it around june-july.
And April is just 2 months from DrupalconAsia and Drupal Hyderabad might plan for a camp around April.
Regards
Chakrapani R
Drupal Bangalore
Drupalcon and Drupalcamp
Unless we have both happening in same city, i don't see much of linkages. And if gap of 2 month is of concern in that case even DrupalHyderabad also should not be doing it in April.
In fact DrupalCamps are being organised in January also.
In all camp what we see sponsorship from Drupal companies only. To make this community bigger we should be bringing other companies too. Most of corporates plan their budget in April itself. I will suggest to warm them up early and get them onboard during start of financial year. End April or early May is preferable.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
How about the Date of May last week.?
Hi all , I would suggest the date around may last week.
Rakesh James
Rakesh, May would be Holidays
Rakesh,
May would be Holidays for all the colleges. We need to consider the following while coming up with event dates:
1. Holidays for students (who are majority(or at-least 50%) of audience)
2. Final or internal Exams for students in the city
3. Clashes with Other Events during the same time. etc,.
Neeraj, Our event last year
Neeraj,
Our event last year in July was a grand Success and corporates planning their budget in April(which I don't believe) was not a problem either. You see events/camps around the year and not just in April.
When we are suggesting a shift 3 months in the event date there should be a solid reason.
Regarding Drupalcamp Hyd being in other city, yes it would be a problem because for Drupal camps people come from all over India and audience for both Hyd and Blr are shared including Core members and organizes.
Regarding the 2 months gap between events, its a DrupalCon which is happening in February in which we are all heavily invested in terms of time, energy and otherwise.
And March is when Drupalcamp Hyd happened, with Drupalcon in Feb, they might want to go with April or May, lets not hijack their slot.
Regards,
Chakrapani R
Drupal Bangalore
planning the event
Chakri,
I do agree with you.
Always there is both side of coin. We can keep on discussing on these.
Purpose was to start planning early. This discussion was started immediately after I had started discussion this on slack.
Last DrupalCamp Bangalore was success but we had burnout. Wouldn't like me or anyone else involved to spend same kind of effort at last moment. We have our full time jobs also to take care of.
Drupalcamp happening Hyderabad on any month should not be issue as local chapters will have its its own set of volunteers. And if we are in situation where same set of people are involved at both places, this situation itself should be changed. This defeats the purpose of having a local community.
Those attending from other cities are mostly team of sponsor companies. And if they are sponsoring Bangalore, they will be come any way.
I am not hell bent on planning this event in April itself, but reason being given doesn't sound logical.
Let the other members contribute to this discussion. Otherwise it looks like we are hijacking this discussion itself ;)
We will decide on dates and other milestones before end of this year. We have 2 full weeks.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
Drupal Camp Bangalore 2016
@Chakri,
That make sense, We should consider their(Students) timing also.
@Neeraj ,
I do agree with you, we should start planning as early as possible. Specifically two things,
1) Dates should be finalized.
2) Website [With minimum information] should be up, at-least 4 months before the camp date.
Rakesh James
Hello @rakesh, This is great!
Hello @rakesh, This is great! Please let me know how i can help. Or lets setup a meeting sometime this month to discuss. That would be great.
@deepak_123Thank you so much
@deepak_123
Thank you so much for showing interest. Will definitely let you know. Please share this discussion node to your drupal folks in Capgemini. We looking forward to good participation from Capgemini at this time. Can you please work towards that?
Rakesh James
Hi @Rakesh, yes i will
Hi @Rakesh, yes i will definitely convey this message to the Capgemini folks. My contact no. is 9148907988. You can give me a call any time to discuss on this further. Lets start to plan this out.
Tahnks @deepak,
I am really sorry, was little busy other stuffs.
Rakesh James
How about the Date planning,?
Why nobodies active on these days?
Rakesh James
How about July 23 and 24?
How about July 23 and 24?
Rakesh James
Drupal Camp Bangalore 2016
Hi, I would suggest we stick to a yearly schedule and organize it around the same time every year. Last year was a great success and we should look forward to make it even bigger this year.
Totally agreed with Rakesh that the site should be up with minimum viable information about the camp well before time.
So June/July gives us ample time to work on all the areas.
Lets do a hangout call on 19/01/2016, 1.30pm - 2.00pm
Lets do a hangout call on 19/01/2016, 1.30pm - 2.00pm http://bit.ly/dcb2016
with agenda of -
Initial planning.
Welcoming newly interested people into organising committee.
Decide on possible the date and Venue
Work out the pre-camp activity and assign the ownership along with tentative schedule
e.g. Website, Venue selection & Date finalising
Hangout Link:- http://bit.ly/dcb2016
Rakesh James
1:30 PM almost never works
1:30 PM almost never works for me. Also, I am not sure what you mean by initial planning. I think that it's better to first finding volunteers, and then proceed with working out workable dates.
It is meant to be a kickstart
It is meant to be a kickstart of the planning for the event and mainly targetting to welcome the intrested newbies to the Bangalore Drupal community.
So we have a scope of finding volunteers among/through them.
1:30-2:00 is usually the
1:30-2:00 is usually the lunch time. Lets have it post lunch so that people can attend it. Around 2:30
How about 2.00pm or 3.00 pm
@Hussain How about 2.00pm or 3.00 pm
Rakesh James
3 PM sounds workable. But
3 PM sounds workable. But let's see what others say. I am just not sure if we have enough to have a productive call. It is better to get some planning work out of the way before the call.
https://groups.drupal.org/nod
https://groups.drupal.org/node/496608#comment-1140083
Rakesh James
Registering the association for opening bank account
I am working with Neeraj for registering the DrupalCamp Bangalore as non profit association. We should be able to open the bank account afterwards. This will help us to avoid problems related to getting payment as well as sending invoice to sponsors.
Reg Registering Drupal Bangalore as a Non-profit
Hi Mahavir & Everyone
The Drupal core committee Bangalore along with relevant help from the community is taking care of the formalities of registrations and bank related work.
We are working with another Non-Profit Organization in Bangalore for the same and the global Indian community is working to create a Drupal Associtation India chapter as well. The core committee is closely working with the global team on the same.
We, the Core committee strongly suggest others not to pursue the same things parallely.
We love the energy and enthusiasm of volunteers and willingness to work towards the Drupal Camp, so everyone interested in volunteering for the Camp please join the call/hangout where we will discuss the next steps.
PS: For further questions on this, please reach out to any of the Core committee members(Chakri,Gokul,Hussain or Jaya) so that we can have an offline discussion and not mix this with the Camp planning.
Regards,
Chakrapani R
Drupal Bangalore Core committee
Hi Chakri, I think we should
Hi Chakri,
I think we should be more open about the Core Commitee stuff, Because Drupal itself an open source.
If Dries haven't had that open vision from the beginning of Drupal none of us will be here.
For the core committee, should be open and not centralized. People like Sudheesh Sudhakaran (TCS) and Neeraj Kumar (Valueboud) worked really hard towards the success of Drupal Camp Bangalore 2015.
I strongly feel both of them should be warmly welcomed to Drupal Bangalore Core committee. Because of their work.
DCB 2015 happened not only because 5 members, It is success of many peoples contribution. Just Like Drupal. Drupal is not a single persons, organizations code, There is number of people contributed to it.
So Lets focus and work towards for the DCB16.
And I would suggest anything more on this should be discussed on the meetup/slack channel.
Rakesh James
Hi, I am afraid you have the
Hi, I am afraid you have the wrong impression. This is not about being open (BTW, the DCB15 organizers all know about our attempts to set up an organization). Setting up an organization needs a lot more care than organizing camps or meetups. It is also going to reflect the entity with which companies are going to transact. We need to be more regulated about this, at least.
As regards to the core group. There is a reason it is limited and time bound. Please read the original posts where this was planned here and here. No where does it say that it is a closed committee but the members are responsible for portraying the community. This is very important if there is a Government entity being formed.
Further discussion is out of scope here. If any one has any questions or concerns, please reach out to one of the core organizers.
Who will dicide Core committee members ? Is there any system ?
I had doubt about @chakri comment
Is there any system or how it was decided about core committee members ????
Yes, there was. Please read
Yes, there was. Please read my comment here - https://groups.drupal.org/node/496608#comment-1139473.
Thanks @hussainweb
Thanks @hussainweb,i read two posts created by @chakrapani and @hussainweb. But my personal concern is, there any system created by Drupal core team (Actual drupal team) to handle these kind of stuff? If yes than please let us know..
Thank you!
How do you mean the actual
How do you mean the actual Drupal team? All this stuff is community driven and all decisions were taken publicly (as you can see from the posts here). The actual issue here seems to be that no one knew that there was a group like this (or forgot). That is okay, really, as long as the work happens. And last year was very successful and it was in no small part due to the effort and structure we have.
I am not saying we shouldn't change anything, but that is a separate discussion.
@hussainweb : Thanks for the
@hussainweb : Thanks for the info, Now i'm clear about this stuff. As you said, yes this discussion should not be here.
Anyway lets make DCB16 bigger success than DCB15 thats our agenda.
Its bad
@Hussain
Don't you feel Suddheesh and Neeraj are deserved to be part of Core committee. Then I am really sorry.
Rakesh James
Rakesh, I am a little hurt by
Rakesh, I am a little hurt by the implied accusation. That aside, let me address your point. Nowhere do we ever say that this is an exclusive community and off limits. But we can't keep adding members all the time. There will be a time for that. We opened this up last year and there was no response (really, zero response>).
Of course, the work we put in (the whole community, not just the core) helped us achieve all the success we saw. But we can't suddenly take on new members immediately after something happens. We are planning on how to do that but this is not the time or place.
Revised Core committee foundation.
@group since this Core committee group is creating such havoc, lets make this the agenda of the next Google hangout and discuss about the topic.
Drupal bangalore community has grown and become active in the past year and people have become more interested in the community and contribute in any way possible. So I would suggest let's revise the foundation and have a discussion to clear out the air of all the confusions.
We should be really be focusing on strengthening the community and start working on making the DCB '16 a bigger success.
Cheers.
I am sorry to point out, but
I am sorry to point out, but the core committee has been working behind the scenes on almost all activities that have happened in Bangalore. It is not creating havoc. :)
But I know what you mean.
I welcome more discussion for that, but not here. I am okay with a call as well but please don't mix it with calls on camp. Since we don't have an agenda for the next call, let's plan one after we outline the points for discussion. The discussion here is that most people seem surprised that there exists such a group. That is not a productive discussion to have in the call.
By "Creating havoc" I did not
By "Creating havoc" I did not comment on the working of the core committee but the discussion on the thread.
People are surprised because they have become more active in the contribution, so in a way this
Kind of havocover the core committee group is a good thing. This is showing the Bangalore Drupalers are more tilted towards community and want to contribute not just via coding.For this I am proposing the revised core committee by adding new members. (But not of course adding all who is coming we will add them in the committee)
Actually make this the main agenda of the call and clear things out as soon as possible so that we can focus on planning the DCB '16.
Thanks
I know what you meant. I was
I know what you meant. I was just trying to crack a joke in otherwise serious discussion. :)
+1 on the call but I am still unclear on the agenda. Just "clear things out" doesn't seem like a good thing to talk about because I can do that even now and not everyone can make it to the call. Can you elaborate on what you want to talk about? It's better if you can list actionable items.
Clear things out: Clear out
Clear things out:
Clear out the confusions everyone have about how to get in to the core group?
Are the members fixed and cannot be altered?
What if some core member has shifted out of Bangalore, will he be still in the committee?
I understand these things have been done last year when the core committee was formed, no one joined in that time. But now I feel wind have changed and people want to be a part of something big as Drupal Community.
I don't see any harm in revising the group members again. In fact going one step further I would say why not revise some of the core members every year. If there has to be a governing body then it's better to follow the same rule (Not like dictatorship ;) ).
We should actually list on the actionable points on what people was to discuss about regarding it.
My Point:
Have a criteria on the Core Committee membership and how and when to change itOther can also comment out their point on what they want to discuss about in the call.
core committee membership
@group
Personally I am not keen on getting my name listed as core committee member even though I would like to be active in making DCB16 bigger success. Till now core group has done wonderful job.
But yes, we should have more than just three active and visible members who are part of committee. From above discussions it more looks like, group is very exclusive and is not open for members who wants to come on-board or missed the bus earlier.
Even though our event was success in general term but potential was much bigger if we had managed it better and had a de-centralized decision making process unlike last time.
If we are making the discussion in private that implies, we are still not open. Unless we bring more members in decision making process, how are we helping them? Unless we encourage and ask group members to take leadership role, by default they will remain mare participants in general.
To make this inclusive, I feel we are not doing enough to encourage people to come forward. Just asking people to come and join won't help. Pro-actively we should identify and help members to take responsibilities. Responsibilities of core group should be nothing but helping them to succeed.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
Lets discuss
Guys,
Lets join the call and discuss.
@Rakesh, see if we can have call in zoom to accommodate more people
Please check this out. We
Please check this out.
We have paid account in uber, For time being we can use that,
www.uberconference.com/vbdrupal [ 19/02/2016] 2.30 pm
Rakesh James
https://groups.drupal.org/nod
https://groups.drupal.org/node/496608#comment-1140203
Rakesh James
DCB 2016 plannning
Hi, please finalize the call time for DCB 16 planning. Or else, we could have a meetup in upcoming weekends for this purpose, i believe it will be more fruitful than the google hangout call.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
https://groups.drupal.org/nod
https://groups.drupal.org/node/496608#comment-1140203
Rakesh James
DCB 2016 plannning
Hi, please finalize the call time for DCB 16 planning. Or else, we could have a meetup in upcoming weekends for this purpose, i believe it will be more fruitful than the google hangout call.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
revised dcb16 planning call [ 19/02/2016] 2.30 pm
www.uberconference.com/vbdrupal [ 19/02/2016] 2.30 pm
Rakesh James
Thanks. I checked
Thanks. I checked uberconference and it seems to require login to get in. Can we use something like zoom instead? Or even hangout- I doubt there will be more than 10 participants.
Also, where are the list of points to discuss? Please put that together with call details.
https://groups.drupal.org/nod
https://groups.drupal.org/node/496608#comment-1140203
Rakesh James
Few things that I think we
Few things that I think we can do in this camp :
1. As in one of the initiative that was planned, using sub domain of a common indian specific domain www.drupal.org.in for camps in india, so this time it can be dcb2016.drupal.org.in ? last time I push same for drupalcamp pune but we were late.
Naveen Valecha
https://www.valechatech.net
@naveenvalecha ++
@naveenvalecha ++
Rakesh James
Call url https://zoom.us/j/734790354 [2.30pm, 19/1/2016]
I changed to Zoom.
Please find the url https://zoom.us/j/734790354 [2.30pm, 19/1/2016]
Agenda:
Thank you.
Rakesh James
@Rakesh please add in the
@Rakesh please add in the
revision of core committee discussionas well. Else it might raise conflicts again in future.@malavya,This call is only
@malavya,
This call is only for DCB16 Planning,
Rakesh James
@malavya,This call is only
@malavya and all
This call is only for DCB16 Planning, For Core committee discussion and we can set up another meetup or call. We don't need to mix it together.
Let Prioritize first as DCB2016.
Rakesh James
OK. I don't mind that!!.. Its
OK. I don't mind that!!.. Its just lets not hamper the planning of DCB '16 discussing over the core committee thing in the thread, that's why wanted to get over that first.
How do you decide
How are you going to discuss on topics when there is confusion on who is going to do what? I will strongly suggest to make this part of open discussion instead of doing a closed discussion over slack or any other separate forum.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
That is what we have to
That is what we have to discuss first - who is going to do what. That is why there is a call for volunteers. It is already a part of the discussion.
Hi All, We will have an open
Hi All,
We will have an open meeting on how to proceed with the core committee soon as we are now preparing a document on what we finalized as prerequisites for members, when we started this one year back. This document also will be open to any changes as we all decide together. But that discussion need in no way hamper the discussion on DCB 2016. So let us go ahead with the plan for the camp as previously planned and have the meeting on core committee soon but not today.
Can other members
Can other members not be part of this exercise?
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
I'm sorry. I don't get you.
I'm sorry. I don't get you. Why don't you want other members in this exercise?
Need to download zoom
To join this, we need to download the software. It was preferable to have platform where there is no requirement of downloading any software. In uberconference you have to create one time account but there was no need of download any OS dependent softwares.
Neeraj
Valuebound, Drupal development
I am also fine with Google
I am also fine with Google Hangout. I am guessing everyone joining in would have a Google account. Skype is also fine. I'd rather not create a new account on every conference solution out there.
Hangout, zoom or skype is
Hangout, zoom or skype is fine with me. Zoom is the tool which we have been using for connecting with Drupal community(Indian and International) and its good.
Please join https://zoom.us/j/734790354
https://zoom.us/j/734790354
Rakesh James
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Rakesh James
Guys, I am assuming the
Guys,
I am assuming the meeting is on zoom and I have connected to the above zoom link.
MOM for the meeting 19 Jan 2016
Hi All,
Please find MOM for todays meeting.
Next meeting for camp planning to be done on Global sprint day - 30th Jan. Please add in if any information is missed.
regards
Sudheesh
Thanks @sudheeshps for MOMs
Thanks @sudheeshps for MOMs :)
@sudheeshps ++
@sudheeshps ++
Rakesh James
Thanks @sudheesh. I would
Thanks @sudheesh.
I would like to add:
I hope I have not missed anything.
How about having a call on this week?
I Know all of you guys are taking a needful break after Drupal Con Asia? How about catching up in a call for our DCB planning on this week?
Rakesh James
Re: How about having a call on this week?
Hi Rakesh,
Greetings!
That sounds good, please share the details of the call, I will make myself available.
Regards
Piyush Jain
Works. How about Friday 3 PM?
Works. How about Friday 3 PM? I hope everyone will recover from the Drupalcon hangover by that time.
Can we do this next week.
Hi All,
I would recommend to do this meeting next week, as most of us are still settling things after Con. Let me know all your suggestions.
regards
Sudheesh
I agree with Sudheesh. I
I agree with Sudheesh. I can't commit to any time this week just now. Thursday/Friday could go either way for me.
Schedule the meeting!!
We can schedule the call, I guess everyone is settled by now. Next week sounds fine to everyone?
How about Wednesday, second half?
We could just meet in person
We could just meet in person during or after the meetup this Saturday.
That's even better!!.
That's even better!!.
Any latest updates?
Hi guys,
Any updates about the camp? Would love to be a part of the planning and implementation in any way I could help!
Thank you Gaurav showing interest.
Will keep you posted.
Rakesh James
If I can help contribute, I'll happy to be part of this camp
Hi Guys,
Like other camps and meetup I just want to contribute.
It will be my pleasure. if you found any role or anything for me.
All the best.
Have we finalised any dates
Have we finalised any dates for the camp ?
And I want to be a volunteer for Bangalore camp. @Hussain Let me know if there is any task for me.
Any Updates on dates??
Hi All,
I see this thread that is really slow progressing. I suggest Dusshera weekend (October 8-9) for the camp.
I am looking forward to volunteer too.
Drupal Camp
Hi srihari,
I'm in for the camp. The dates seem to be fine