Posted by rezaim on May 7, 2010 at 5:55pm
Hi Everyone,
I've been reading a lot about Aegir lately, and I find it just a great tool which would save so much administration time. However, I still can't find a clear answer as to whether Aegir can administer remote sites as well. I have 6 different shared hosting accounts on different hosting companies all Drupal based. Now, can I use Aegir to administer the sites on all these hosting accounts? I get a feeling from documentation that Aegir can only manage Drupal installations which are local.
My plan is to have one VPS that hosts Aegir, and from there be able to admin all the sites on my 6 shared hosting accounts.
Thanks,
James
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I don't think that is
I don't think that is possible, you would need root access to the remote environment, which you do not get on shared hosting.
So, it would work if my sites are on Virtual or dedicated server
So, does this mean that if I have many sites on let's say 6 virtual/dedicated servers, then I can use one Aegir instance to administer all of them since I'd have root access?
Rsync
Why don't you have all sites mirrored on the dedicated server, use it as a sandbox and then rsync them to the shared sites when they're ready?
Meg Lee Chin
http://megleechin.com
Why can't you host it in your VPS ?
why do you want to make these in 6 different hosting providers ? May be your clients hosting :(, but convince him to move to your VPS, so many of the features like executing drush will be got .
My provider has disabled many of the features , so I think every shared hosting do the same for security reasons . So try to convinve and bring to a single VPS . Cheers and Njoy Aegir .
Hari K T
http://harikt.com
The reason for hosting on different accounts
Hi Hari. Thanks for reply. The main reason is search engine optimization. Google doesn't seem to give much weight to interlinking of sites which are hosted on the same IP, or at least that has been my experience.
I think it depends on the
I think it depends on the contents , not the IP .
Hari K T
http://harikt.com
I agree.
I agree.
As far as I know this isn't
As far as I know this isn't true. If it was true, it would mean that people who use shared hosting accounts would automatically be penalised by Google - which wouldn't be fair at all. However, you still need to make sure that the sites aren't:
with remote access is it possible?
Sorry if I am butting into the conversation here, but I have an odd situation. I have a potential client who wants to use their server instead of ours(Aegir), because they want to host video on their own server and save hosting fees. Is it possible to do with remote access, and if so how complicated is that?
Also, external sites can be migrated into Aegir, if you would like more info on this, just let me know. And Aegir is wonderful, I don't know I did without it! It saves such a huge amount of time and frustration. Also, performance is absolutely incredible. I can't say enough about it.
Video files definitely can be on remote server
I have no doubt that video files can be on remote servers. So, you can host their site on your server, but point to the videos on their server. Instead of providing a local path for the videos when you create your content, you probably just provide a remote url. I am not even sure if you need any special settings; it definitely won't be complicated.
Thanks for your feedback about Aegir; it definitely gave me extra incentive to start using Aegir for sure.
Just saw your post
Thank you for the quick reply as well! I am going to look into this, I just always hosted all my projects on our servers and used outside video storage services, so I never really had to deal with any remote files other than that. The money issue for the client is preventing the usual way we go about things, but I really would like to help them out, I think it's a worthy project.
you can host the videos where
you can host the videos where ever you like, why not set them up with amazon to stream the video, then they only pay for what they use.. http://www.learningapi.com/streamingmedia-articles/amazon-cloudfront-str...
or just set up a copy of drupal on their server.. and charge a bit more for updates...
Thanks
Thanks for the quick reply! I would have loved to get them on Amazon S3, but it seems money is a real issue and most my work on the project is going to be pro-bono. And a drupal instance will be set up on their server at this point, I guess I am just so used to Aegir at this point and love the ability to manage all my sites in one place. Thanks for the input, I totally agree. And thank you again, for the quick reply.
This thread went in a lot of
This thread went in a lot of places at once :) I'll try and state simply where multiserver is right now:
1) The next release of Aegir will likely see our work from the 'dev-services' branch which is bringing proper multiserver support to Aegir including migrating sites between servers and all that fun stuff
2) Yes this means you will be able to perform tasks on Drupal sites from an 'aegir' server whether those sites are served locally by the aegir server or on various remote web servers, and provision new sites on remote web and database servers from the Aegir server.
3) The remote servers cannot be shared hosting servers - you are required to set up SSH keys and a relevant user (ie an 'aegir' user) on the remote side that can run commands from the CLI etc. That is how the Aegir node will communicate with the remote server. A standard Linux VPS is fine for a remote web server.
Basically I'd hold off until the next release to really try the multiserver stuff, as it has only been experimental to date and the next release will see it really be supported.
Hope that sums it up.
Wow awesome
Waiting to see the next new features :) .
Hari K T
http://harikt.com
You definitely summed it up
Hi mig5,
Thanks for the reply. You pretty much answered all my questions. I didn't even know that the multi-server scenario is a new feature.
Also, thanks for your all the invaluable content on your site. All that saved me at least a week of research time.
videos on drupal pages
It was an interesteing discussion. It generated a few basic questions in my mind. Can somebody help me?
please reply
thanks
Go for youtube
Hi georged,
You can go for youtube . There are some settings you need to do when getting the script from youtube. You can see the youtube playground which has some examples . It will not take you to youtube until the user clicks on the logo which is small on the right side. But it opens in a new window too .
I don't love vimeo for its hard to move back to some position trying to replay . Sorry vimeo , try to make it work fine. Not sure how it works in Windows . But in Ubuntu its the case .
Hari K T
http://harikt.com
MediaFront
I would look into the Media Front module. I am using this on a project currently and it is excellent. Embedded Media Field would allow you pull video into the player from multiple sources such as vimeo, youtube, bliptv, etc.. It also integrates with the CDN module(plug and play module and video management service ) as well as the Flash Video Module(automatic conversion of video files to the Flash format, and support for Amazon S3).
http://drupal.org/project/mediafront
http://www.mediafront.org/drupalconsf (DrupalCon Videos)
http://www.mediafront.org/
http://drupal.org/project/emfield
http://drupal.org/project/cdn2
http://drupal.org/project/flashvideo
Remote server release timing
Hey guys, anxiously awaiting the next release with remote server support. We won't hold anyone to it but was wondering how it is coming and if you guys have a target date (or range).
Thanks for all the hard work on Aegir!
Exciting stuff! Can't wait
Exciting stuff! Can't wait till it's ready for primetime. :-)
Very interresting
I've experimented with the code currently in master, but unfortunately I ran into some issues. The paths used for rsync are incorrect.
The dev-services branch has not been fully merged and does contain changes which would affect this problem.
Anyone familiar with what's keeping that branch from being merged into master?