Kicking the tires of Open Atrium and whether it make sense for a Transition Initiative

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reikiman's picture

It's been awhile since I was in communication with this group - but that doesn't mean I'm not interested in the project, I've just been very very busy. I put together a site with organic groups for Transition Silicon Valley, but the team hasn't adopted using it yet. Meaning I don't know whether the configuration I created will work in practice. Recently I've been using an OpenAtrium site because I write for examiner.com and part of the examiner 2.0 transition is to set up an OpenAtrium site as a private community for Examiners to chat with each other.

I'm rather impressed with OpenAtrium and think it fits a lot of the needs that a Transition Initiative has. To me the primary need is discussion between the members of a Transition Initiative, and most especially to have areas that the individual committees in an Initiative can work together.

OpenAtrium is organized around "groups" (using organic groups under the covers). The groups have a heck of a lot of featuritis available, and you can select specific features for specific groups pretty easily. e.g. a group can have a group blog, a group-specific book (which they call notebook) tree, calendar, "case tracker" for project tracking, "shoutbox" (kinda like a small scale twitter), and other features can be developed and installed.

To me that part looks very useful in that you'd set up an OpenAtrium group for each committee in the Transition Initiative.

Where it falls down is that OpenAtrium is by default private. Out of the box you install it, and all that the public sees is the login/register block. A specific group can be made public (see http://atrium.transitionsiliconvalley.org/films-hope-and-vision) if desired. There's a page in the OpenAtrium documentation that claims to say how to make an OpenAtrium site public, but the menu choice they say should be there is not there. I'm also having a hard time figuring out how to make the home page look interesting.

The method to customize the home page of a Group is with a 'Customize Dashboard' button, a popup window (overlay) comes up and lets you add some stuff that's essentially blocks to the page. I don't think this is Panels under the cover, but something else. I believe Young Hanh is a proponent of Context module rather than Panels. In any case it means the Dashboard page is the home page of a group, and that the design style results as boxes with a title bar and content.

It is a Drupal site so you could go into example.com/admin and change stuff around. But their website has admonitions against doing so because it makes upgrades more complex. I'd written about that in my evaluation of the Features module (http://davidherron.com/content/kicking-tires-drupals-features-module) which is - say person A develops a feature, the feature contains a View definition, and person B installs it, then modifies the View definition? How does person A distribute version 1.1 of the feature and properly update the View definition? Isn't the new version of the View going to screw up the modified version? Actually it seems that in OpenAtrium they have a method for handling this concern but it complicates the install process. I think.

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OpenAtrium might now be flexible

aangel's picture

Hi, David. I don't have time for a full response right now (getting ready for a week's vacation) but someone whose opinion I respect has tried using Open Atrium for a project and found that as soon as one wanted to deviate from the initial structure it become difficult then impossible.

I know very little about the distribution myself but I wanted to pass that along right away to help steer the conversation.


Andre Angelantoni
Founder, PostPeakLiving.com

" as soon as one wanted to

reikiman's picture

" as soon as one wanted to deviate from the initial structure it become difficult then impossible." - Yup, that's essentially what I'm seeing. I'd like to know it's not true as the idea is very close to what we need.

Drupal Commons

topfloorstudio's picture

Transition Asheville is 2 weeks from finishing a site with Drupal Commons. My company did the development. I'd be glad to share what we've set-up over through a webinar if anyone is interested. It works well because it is more of a front-end social tool. It enables customization of the initial structure and has friends (which Open Atrium does not).

Thanks,
Ty

Thallock@topfloorstudio.com | 828.225.8124

yes for webinar!

bastoubach's picture

I would love to see a webinar about your experience with this site! I built a Drupal 6 website for our Transition Perth, Ontario initiative and am in the process of refining it...
Thanks for offering to do that!
Sebastien.

Fab!

aangel's picture

Great idea! I too would love a demo.

Can you set choose a date that works for you perhaps more than two weeks in the future? (I'll be back from vacation by then!)

We can announce it in various circles and perhaps even record it for future reference.


Andre Angelantoni
Founder, PostPeakLiving.com

Choose a time next week

topfloorstudio's picture

Let me talk to the team and get back to you guys. In the meantime would you send me contact info for anyone that would be interested in attending. The idea to record is good. Do you know someone who could help with that? If not I could do it and upload it to TopFloorUniversity.com which is our academic branch of TopFloorStudio.

Thanks,
Ty

Drupal Commons

topfloorstudio's picture

Sometime in September we will do a webinar about Drupal Commons for Transition. Please email me your contact info so I can help to coordinate a date that works for everyone:
Thallock@topfloorstudio.com | 828.225.812

Go to ustream.tv and from

reikiman's picture

Go to ustream.tv and from what I could tell by using it, it's pretty easy to broadcast a screen-share-session AND record it.

FWIW I'm interested of course in hearing about what you did.

Away

aangel's picture

David, could you take on organizing us to see this broadcast? I'm gone for vacation starting Sunday and I'm slammed trying to get ready.


Andre Angelantoni
Founder, PostPeakLiving.com

Late September

topfloorstudio's picture

I wanted to update everyone about the Drupal Commons meeting. It looks like the site will be done later September. I will keep everyone posted, but in the meantime email me if your interested: thallock@topfloorstudio.com. Just a quick refresher, we are developing TransitionAsheville's site with Drupal Commons and are finishing at the end of September.

Thank you,
Ty Hallock

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