e-Commerce Training interest

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gordon's picture

Hi,

With the release of the first RC for e-Commerce 4.0 I am looking to run training here in Melbourne Aust.

I am thinking that this will be a 2-3 day training coarse which will cover the installation of e-Commerce and configuration of e-Commerce, the laying out your the site with theming and development of views. Integration into your current workflow, and integration into existing system (Using the API), how to build a payment gateway etc.

Generally when I run training I leave the last half day as a free time to work on student directed training. So anything that you can think of. Basically half a day to pick my brains on any topic.

Right now I have no dates in mind, but I am just looking at finding out if there is enough interest to make sure it is worth while in moving forward with this endevour.

I know that Australia is a long way from everyone, I am also looking at adding online training sessions as well so if you are interested please let me know.

Thanks in advance.
Gordon.

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lightweight's picture

Hello Gordon,

I met you at the Drupal Mini-conf held in January 2008 (I'm the yank from Christchurch, NZ). We'd certainly be interested in hearing more about the training. It's great to see e-Commerce nearing a stable release - we're very keen to use it on a couple Drupal 6.x sites and have found the lack of documentation to be a show stopper... Can you point us to anything written up? PHPDocs?

Cheers,

Dave

The online training should be good

Charles Oertel's picture

Hi Gordon

I'm in South Africa (for now) and also very interested in the online publication of whatever training you hold. I've worked my way through eCommerce on drupal 4.x, and migrated my payment module to 5.x and to Ubercart, but really need something stable I can build the next generation of eCommerce sites on.

kind regards
Charles Oertel

+1 for online training

burningdog's picture

I'm also in South Africa and although popping over to Aus for a 3-day training session would be a rather cool thing to do, I'm not sure my one-man boat would make it. Would be up for an online one too...or if you recorded your session and put it online.

Thanks for the interest. ATM

gordon's picture

Thanks for the interest. ATM I am still investigating and working out pricing for where I can hold the training, and the numbers.

I am feeling confident that I will be able to go forward with it, and I will be looking to hold it around June/July which is when I expect to release the final version of e-Commerce.

Once I have done this I am going to investigate holding online training, on a regular bases.

If you have been looking at it, I think that it is getting very tidy now and is really look great. There are still bugs and some missing parts of the features but it is getting better every day.

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Gordon Heydon

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Gordon Heydon

Documentation?

lightweight's picture

Hello Gordon,

Great to hear that a release is imminent... Unfortunately, we're looking at a move to Ubercart because we need something for D6 now. The main reason for that shift is that, apart from the very sparse documentation on drupalecommerce.org, we haven't been able to find any documentation related to fairly critical things like

  • Overview architecture documentation (i.e. how things fit together)
  • Database schema
  • Upgrade path from D5 ecommerce
  • Examples of one or two typical ecommerce workflow configurations
  • Examples of integration with the Rules module

Does any of this sort of documentation exist for D6? Is there anyone who's currently taking responsibility for it? Given our investment in ecommerce for D4.7 and D5, we'd love to contribute to the project, e.g. payment gateway ports, but at present we're reluctant to invest more time in ecommerce in its current state given our looming customer deadlines. I'm hoping you can point us to a hidden cache of documentation that I've missed...

Dave

Hi, I know what you are

gordon's picture

Hi,

I know what you are going though, and e-Commerce has had growing pains (big growning pains) because of ways I was doing the development and how I was managing the community. I myself have been very disappointed in e-Commerce and the state of it up until about 6 months ago.

Now I completely changed the method that I am doing e-Commerce and how the community is going to work around e-Commerce. I have basically re-written most of the code, and reduced the size of e-Commerce dramitically to only 13 modules. Basically enabling the core of e-Commerce to enable anyone to build amazing sites and do just about anything, without having to develop as much code.

The documentation is not where I would like it, but I documentation is not what I am good at so it is lacking. but I am generally always available to help and point in the right direction.

I am really excited about e-Commerce and where it is going, esp the new Charging system which is just amazing and will allow the store owner to create any new charge/discount without having to write any code. This is complete expandable and allows for any type of charge. This is complete opposite to how it was being done with a single module for every type of charge which is just unmaintainable.

ATM I am working on getting the final release done, which is going to be released soon. It is working all great and get more and more stable. I have sites running e-Commerce live and also I have site in the pipeline that are being developed.

I am also looking to expand the community and get people to help in the areas like creating documentation, and helping to test the API's and make things work better.

Th big thing is that e-Commerce is a part of the Drupal community and we are looking to leverage this, but taking advantage of things like using the new PIFR 2.0 system to run the automated testing for e-Commerce when ever a patch is submitted and when ever I commit code all this is run to make sure that everything remains completely stable at all times. As soon as PIFR 2.0 is release I will be running this.

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Gordon Heydon

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Gordon Heydon

just for the record...

mossy2100's picture

I'm no expert - but Gordon gave a good demo of e-commerce on Tuesday night and it looks great. Very flexible and integrates well with other modules such as CCK and Rules. We are definitely going to use it for moonmars.com

I'm in for some ecommerce training

smw's picture

Can you put me down on your list to inform me when you are doing any future training. Would love to get up to a decent level to give back and support in any area possible.

I'm keen

szermierz's picture

I"m in Brisbane but am keen to try get down there.

Can I also register interest

BernieCram's picture

Hi Gordon,

can you please put me on your list to notify when you get the training organised.

Thanks
B

interested in training

amaree's picture

intersted in some training, online sounds good however i have no problems heading down to meb for some training and would bring another drupal dev with me ;)

Stopping the bleed to UC

LenInkster-1's picture

Gordon, one thing you might want to try is to do a screen cast of the installation process and initial configuration of e-Commerce in Drupal 6.

I feel that it is the initial setup and configuration that kills everyone on any new module. This means that you don't have to do any documentation, just talk people through a set-up and initial config. I don't mind taking that and transcribing into words and pictures to go onto the Wiki so we can build some good docs.

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