Feedback welcome - explaining Drupal Ladder

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heather's picture

I'm really super excited about Drupal Ladder as a way to organize and distribute effort. I started in the sprint on Friday to figure out how I could get involved. Now, I'm focusing on making it easier for people to understand exactly what Drupal Ladder is, and to find out how to get involved. I've added two new "about" pages.
http://drupalladder.org/content/get-involved
http://drupalladder.org/content/steering-group

I discovered, if you have specific things you want changed on the DrupalLadder.org site, you add them as issues against the distribution. See a list of current issues.

Now, I'd like your feedback about this graphic explaining the drupalladder.org site v the distribution v the g.d.o and IRC places.

See the Issue: http://drupal.org/node/1751404

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Makes sense

BrockBoland's picture

This looks great!! I too have been struggling with how to handle DrupalLadder.org site content issues, versus actual installation profile or module issues, and how to differentiate between them in the issue queues. I'm beginning to wonder if we should even have a separate issue queue for DrupalLadder.org content—meaning both lesson content and page content.

Well, all the content on the

heather's picture

Well, all the content on the live site ALSO goes into the distro, so I think it makes sense to unify them... especially to avoid the risk of dividing effort.

Once Bryan explained WHY we have the distro it was easier to understand.

What I want to know is, I can see "only complete lesson" content gets exported in the distro... but do users also track their progress in the distro? I imagine that all the checklisting and badgery will happen on the online site?

A point of clarification

TransitionKojo's picture

Not sure if I should post this here or in the issue queue. If it needs to be in the Issue Queue, I'll move it there. I'm posting here since you specifically asked for feedback, and Brock responded here. :-)

The "DrupalLadder Distro" box is a bit ambiguous, at least to someone who may be new to all of this. The things I think raise questions are:

Download the codebase. Contains only completed lessons

  • *I'm assuming 'completed lessons' means lessons that have been fully written by the author. But, sitting next to the "Users complete lessons and track progress" point in the "DrupalLadder.org" box, it's not entirely clear if a 'completed lesson' is one I, a user, has completed, or one that's been "fully written and is ready to be used" by an author. I think "complete lessons" is being used twice in two different contexts. Unless I'm mistaken and missing something.
  • My suggestion: Perhaps different terms like "Finalized lessons" for lessons that have reached 'Final/Up to Date' draft status on DrupalLadder.org and "Completed lessons" for lessons that users have finished.

I'm not sure what the inset "DrupalLadder.org" box with the blue arrow is telling us.

  • Is it telling us that the Drupal Ladder Distro is the same one used to build the DrupalLadder.org site? If so, I'm not sure how that's helpful to someone trying to learn to contribute.
  • Is it telling us that "Feedback and Editing on Lessons" from DrupalLadder.org will make their way INTO the DrupalLadder Distro?
  • My suggestion: I think this inset block can be removed and the second text block moved into it's place. The new second text block then becomes something straightforward to a new person like, "This is your practice copy of Drupal, to use as you 'climb the ladder'."

I hope that wasn't too hypercritical or nitpicky. You guys have all done a GREAT job with this and I've been trying to share it with people.

For the codebase: Agreed that

BrockBoland's picture

For the codebase: Agreed that it should read "Finalizing lessons" for those included in the distro. However, I'm not sure that this should be the case anyway: right now, there are several lessons in the core Drupal ladder that are awaiting review or some updating, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be included in the distro (mostly because this would leave gaps in the ladder). I think that the latest versions of all lessons can be included in the distro.

As for the inset box: yes, DrupalLadder.org is running off the distro. I'm not really sure how to better represent this, though. Swapping the DrupalLadder.org - Live box into its place might be misleading, since the site itself will evolve and change, and those changes will then be wrapped up into the distro for download. Maybe DrupalLadder.org should be shown above (or below) the distro box, or something like that.

Heya there! I don't know

heather's picture

Heya there!

I don't know actually.

Maybe Bryan or Brock can reply?

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