Shame

I found that it's the real estate folks that are the real issue.

Building a real estate site isn't that hard, (I've built a few). What's hard is dealing with the MLS/RETS systems, (I could have the acronyms wrong) and the real estate folks. Not only is their API poor and undocumented but it's a real pain in the ass trying to get access to it so you can build a system around it.

I could disparage these folks for hours and not get tired, but I will save you the tirade.

Have Fun - Bill

I hear both of regarding your complaints. For almost all projects, there is always room for better documentation.

Both of you can help. From the perspective of both of you, new to this module, reading and improving the documentation would help tremendously. Here is your opportunity to further a project along. The people working on this project are just like you - people who need a module like this, and have come together to make this module and associated documentation.

So, start using the module. Make notes of where the documentation does not explain, or perhaps isn't clear - or even WRONG.

If the module has issues with the uninstall, make notes of this. Create an issue, so this can be looked at.

Drupal, the modules, the community are all made better by everyone providing input and their knowledge.

Welcome to the Drupal community - look forwarding to reading about your contributions.

yup drealty works alright, the problem has always been working with the MLS, / configuration problems; i've been developing a site with Drealty for a while and had it working just fine, then the MLS changed their MLS provider, so now all of everything has to be reconfigured including my custom views. So if you need help let me know cause i'll be working on it, when it was running it was way better than the MLS, id say that the nearest rival was Zillow, but hey, now its all wacked but it's not drupals fault, if anything drupal provides the BADASSNESS that can make it POP way better than

I'd say just allow for extra time for configuration...

Also, a big reason that dRealty was created and is engineered the way it is is to handle requests from clients and display data in hundreds of ways via panels, display suite, views, whatever. Not just to import data, which is why it works best in the hands of a developer who can put those pieces together.

Hi. I'm the developer of PIRETS, a Drupal 6 RETS import module that dRealty was based on.

Building that module was a lot of work, and not a lot of fun. There's really no way I would have built it if I weren't being paid to do so at the time, and once I quit the company I worked for under which I developed that module, I didn't maintain it for very long for free.

As bkelly says above, RETS is a rather poorly-written and inconsistently-imlemented "standard," so trying to implement it for broad compatibility across providers was quite difficult.

Now, I'd love to create an updated module with improved compatibility with the Drupal 7 field system, and which uses the Migrate framework (which is something like Feeds, but far and away saner in its implementation) for importing and field mapping. I think migration and importing problems are interesting to work on. But I'm just not going to do it for free, and I'm especially not going to be shamed into doing so.

But if you're really interested in seeing improved real estate modules for Drupal and you can put your money where your mouth is, feel free to get in touch. Otherwise, this thread is incredibly condescending and not constructive.

Sorry the product you purchased at such a high price is defective. Please call our RMA department and you will get a full refund.

Sincerely,

The Drupal Community

Tried putting all together some very good modules to finally make my real estate website work.
I can import XML URLs automatically with Xpath parser, auto geomap all from third party CRM
Check out my web site @ www.gfdubai.com (still under development)

goto http://www.drupalxray.com/ to check the modules that I used.

Good luck

about these so-called developers is that they pretend to be the "Drupal community" but...have they ever answered questions on this forum, or been to the IRC channel?
They are too busy for that, the ever-repeated lame excuse.
Other groups have lively developer discussions on their channels.
They only post to whine that they need money, to flame, or to post disgusting gossip, after saying that this discussion is not "constructive".
So, am I justified or not to call them a SHAME!!!

This started as an effort to bring this group alive, because it is dead.
No questions get answered, as for IRC, I have not seen anybody participating in months or even years, where are the people you mention?
About the service that is supposed to replace it, took a peek, it shows that you see the world through your narrow developer mind.
IRC is for users, not only developers or teams, users get to know each other and share knowledge, that is what community is about, not only work and money.
I was dragged into responding to despicable actions, like the publicizing of a private communication to a mentor, with the intention of insulting me for no reason, that person is not a mentor but a vendor, not interested in mentoring.
Then I had the developer continue the ridiculous mudslinging by investigating my private life, and posting links about my wife, all this nauseating behavior shows nothing about me, but all about the low nature of those who indulge in such actions, and the dreadful state of decadence of this group.
Do you think that I belong to this group to have to put up with such crap?
Or that I am interested in combative tête-à-tête, or have time for that?
Real estate not only can, but has to be handled on a case by case basis, I doubt that developers in this group can understand this, simply because they know nothing about the industry itself.
I seriously doubt that drealty will be supported, have seen nothing in that direction, except promises.
There is not one theme for real estate, and even the poorest of CMS has at least one theme.
I don't need a particular module to build a real estate site, I think that the correct approach is to combine more robust modules to achieve that functionality.
I don't need a particular theme.
I don't need a particular distro.
I don't think that the gist of an RE site is the ability to shuffle listing data with Views, entity reference and connect, Display Suite, etc. that has no SEO advantage, RE information does.
I don't need vendors indulging in personal attacks and mudslinging because I don't pay up.
I though that community was collaboration between users, but obviously this group is more interested in flames and personal attacks.
If somebody wants to discuss issues about building a real estate site they can find me on IRC, or post in this forum, in spite that it is an outdated format not suitable for developers, but please in a different thread since this is one is too rotten, and not because of me.

@ckosloff, is is apparent that your needs/requirements are not in good alignment with the functioning of the Drupal Community. Perhaps it would be best for all concerned it you found a solution not based upon Drupal.

My 2 cents.
David

Are you crazy? Sexual harassment because of a compliment?
That was just a humourous remark, that somebody interprets that as sexual harassment just shows that their own mind is full of filth.
I did not email any CTO, but a mentor, private communications should stay private, to publicize them in an insulting manner is indeed a breach of code of conduct.
I did not ask for help, just criticism.
To post links to my wife, that could be construed as sexual harassment too, according to your warped logic, that is really gross and obnoxious.
Now if you want to degrade this forum to that level it is up to you, I think that the whole issue is disgusting and absurd, and don't intend to comment any further on it.
Regarding your development, keep it for your happy customers.

Yes, you know me, I tend to compliment women (my Latin and European upbringing), have done it for you, and you said "thank you", and that was it.
To overreact and start a mudslinging fest is stupid, but I admit that I should not compliment somebody I don't know, they might misinterpret it, lesson learned.
You know me, do you think that I expect anybody to do things for me for free? You know that I am not that dumb.
You know that I want to learn Drupal, I ask questions and contribute back, happened several times.
You also know that you don't use IRC only to discuss dev, right? What were those comments on San Fran? Something starting with n, he, he.
To answer your question: the wiser investment is to learn Drupal, because no Drupal "shop" can create the site that I need, they simply do not understand the industry in depth, it has to be sustainable in the long run, and I don't think they cut it.
In fact, I have seen a commercial RE site created by the company you work for now, they paid thousands of dollars and it is not effective.
That is criticism, not bashing, please don't take it to offense.
Of course there is no "one size fits all", that is precisely the point.
Of course, I don't want anybody to theme it, but I would appreciate some criticism and suggestions on how it looks, should've asked you first, sorry.
Cielito, please understand that people wake up when you say something strong, that was the intention, not "bashing the community" I love.
This group has been dead for ages, none of these vendors ever answered questions or tried to help, and I have been lurking there for years.
You will see that after the flames die down, it will be dead as usual.
To answer your other question: yes I tried WP, paid the fee my board wants for the feed, and it was a total waste of money, because the imports were there all right, but it was lacking flexibility.
You keep your priorities straight, and right you are, you work for a living and also actively contribute, congrats, but you are missing the point, these guys don't do any of the stuff you do, they just whine about money.
They contributed back to the community, but if you don't support a contributed module you are defeating the purpose, because users will trust the module and then get into a terrible mess, trying to install, configure, etc., that is what I am angry about.
The RE module is a total mess and I am not the only one that says so (ask Jay), it does not even uninstall properly, I had to spawn a different test site to ditch it.
To end this, these so time-consuming modules they need money for, are simply not needed, they will bring problems in the long run, remember Jay's approach, you have to keep as close to core as possible, all that functionality can be done with modules that are much more robust, that is what I am researching now.
Of course, these devs won't like that, but it is the truth.
Chau, cielito, and thanks for trying to cool down the flames.

This group has been dead for ages, none of these vendors ever answered questions or tried to help, and I have been lurking there for years.

Which nobody in the world is obligated to owe you a single thing, we owe you no work whatsoever. Nobody is going to build you something for free while you go profit on it. You've lashed out at people in this group and issues in the past as well as PM'ed a lot of people that work with real estate trying to get free work out of them. You've been talking about "can't build the site I need" for years. No one even knows what you are talking about. But again, we aren't obligated to just give it to you anyway.

The majority is not agreeing with you, do you not realize that you're perhaps wrong in this entire approach? All you are basically saying is "I won't pay any money for anything its such a waste, fix this module because you owe it to me as a contributed project to give me a site I dreamed up which you cannot possibly understand. Since you don't understand, I am going to attack you anyway."

Be reasonable. Cielo is 100% correct.

Kosloff,
Seek professional help.