Google will use site speed to set its Page Rank, will that matter to Drupal 7 sites?

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Rosamunda's picture

Hola gente!

Pues bien, habrán leído la noticia que Google va a utilizar para indexar sus sitios la velocidad de carga como un elemento más a medir. Si bien no es un elemento que va a pesar mucho en la determinación del PR (aparentemente menos del 1% del total de sitios se ha visto afectado hasta ahora), creo que es un tema de discusión interesante.

Ello viene a cuento porque Drupal 7 sería más lento que Drupal 6 (erm...), y si bien no he testeado Drupal 7 todavía, el hecho que haya artículos titulados What can we do to make Drupal 7 faster? hacen que uno se pregunte sobre la verdadera necesidad de [por ahora] pasarse a Drupal 7, o pensar siquiera en pasarse.

Inclusive me viene a la mente la comparación entre la instalación "normal" o "default" de Drupal vs. usar directamente la distribución de Pressfow (hay un artículo muy interesante sobre Pressflow 7 en Development Seed).

Me parece que es un tema interesante a discutir, ya que si se pretende que cargar una página sea tan rápido como volvear la página de un libro... Drupal parece ir para el otro lado.

Lo dejo picando. Saludos!
Rosamunda

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English Version (sort of)

Well fellows, you are probably aware of the latest Google news about how it indexes sites and set the PR. Google is going to use speed as a new parameter to set PR. Yeah, it seems it will be no big deal, because until now it only affected the PR of less than 1% of their indexed sites. Anyway, I think it is interesting to talk about this.

And this comes to my mind, because Drupal 7 would be slower than Drupal 6 (erm...), and even when I haven´t personally tested it,the thing is that there are some articles out there (like: What can we do to make Drupal 7 faster?) that talks about the "slower issue" you start to ask yourself if there is a real need to [think about changing] your Drupal 6 stuff to Drupal 7.

And thinking about this, it comes to my mind some very interesting articles that I´ve been reading about Pressflow 7 at Development Seed. (Pressflow vs. Drupal default installation?).

I think that it is a very interesting subject to talk about, since Google wants in the near future pages to be loaded in a second, just as if you were flicking through the pages of a book... does Drupal seems to go in the other way?

Cheers!
Rosamunda

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Que raro, a mi me parece que

quindio's picture

Que raro, a mi me parece que Drupal 7 es mas rapido que Drupal 6. :-)

pensamientos

ipwa's picture

Pressflow enrealidad creo que solo sirve (osea vas a notar una gran diferencia) si tu sitio tiene muchisimo trafico y estas haciendo cosas como replicar bases de datos. Tengamos en cuenta que Drupal 7 tiene grandes cambios como fields e imagecache en core, asi que porsupuesto que va a ser mas pesado y mas lento comparado a drupal 6. Yo creo que en una compracion entre una pagina en Drupal 6 con articulos usando fields, imagenes con imagecache, muchos bloques y caching activado, y lo mismo en Drupal 7, probablemente la de Drupal 7 seria mas rapida. Hay varios cambios de Pressflow 6 que entraron a Drupal 7 (al igual que muchos cambios de Pressflow 5 entraron a 6), asi que a mi me parece que por lo menos en cuestion de escala, Drupal 7 esta mucho mas preparado, pero claro tienes que tener un buen entorno preferiblemente con APC o memcahed y Varnish.

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Nicolas

English?

Michelle's picture

When you post to English speaking groups, a translation is nice... :)

Michelle

Sorry about that, I thought,

quindio's picture

Sorry about that, I thought, I was in one of the Latin American groups.
Because when I was responding all of my tags where in Spanish.

When I post something to the San Diego Drupal group the tags are all in English.

I do not know what is wrong but I apologize.

:-)

Not you :)

Michelle's picture

I was actually replying to Rosamunda who crossposted this to the SEO group, which is where I'm reading it.

Michelle

You´re right, sorry!!

Rosamunda's picture

Yes, you´re right Michelle. I´m sorry, I didn´t realize that it should have been a bilingual post.
Now I´ve updated it, with an english version :)
Cheers!
Rosamunda

Thanks!

Michelle's picture

If it was just in Spanish groups it wouldn't matter but it's great to have them bilingual when you cross post to groups that are normally English.

Thanks,

Michelle

Habria que ver tambien como

leofishman's picture

Habria que ver tambien como google mide el tiempo de carga de la pagina, si drupal entrega primero el contenido, entonces no creo que haya mucha diferencia de performance entre d6 y d7 y mismo si las hay, igual deberia cargar mucho mas rapido que otras plataformas, no?

tiempo de carga/ load time

ipwa's picture

Como 80% o mas del tiempo de carga viene del front-end con imagenes, css, js, videos, etc. Asi que creo que una gran parte (de tener un puntaje alto en Google basado en el tiempo de carga de una pagina Drupal) seria escoger el tema correcto, preferiblemente uno que use sprites y que no dependa demasiado en imagenes para que se vea bien. Win Leer's escribio un articulo muy bueno de como mejorar el tiempo de carga de front-end de una pagina Drupal: http://wimleers.com/article/improving-drupals-page-loading-performance

About 80%+ of loading time comes from the front-end with images, css, js ,videos, etc. So I guess that a big part (of getting a high google ranking based on load time on a Drupal site) would be choosing the right theme, preferrably one that uses sprites and doesn't rely heavily on images to look good. Wim Leer's wrote a really good blog post about improving Drupal's front-end performance: http://wimleers.com/article/improving-drupals-page-loading-performance

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Nicolas

dont over react to google

akucharski's picture

Yes, we have seen that google will be using performance as part of many many variables in their rating criteria (http://linuxsysadminblog.com/2010/04/google-will-use-site-performance-an...) and while we believe that it is very important I wouldn't drop everything to increase performance.

From the google post: (http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/04/using-site-speed-in-w...)

While site speed is a new signal, it doesn't carry as much weight as the relevance of a page. Currently, fewer than 1% of search queries are affected by the site speed signal in our implementation and the signal for site speed only applies for visitors searching in English on Google.com at this point

There are many variables which will impact performance. Some of the biggest gains are generally obtained by caching.

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Drupal should make its

geshan's picture

Drupal should make its performance better, its slow compared to other CMS and frameworks.

Geshan

Got any data to back that up?

Flying Drupalist's picture

Got any data to back that up?