Prijedlog: Definicija i namjera GDO Balkan grupe / Suggestion: Definition and purpose of GDO Balkan group

UPDATE: Please, take a moment and express your thoughts in the following poll: http://groups.drupal.org/node/240288

For the english (i-was-in-a-hurry-not-so-perfect-translation) see below.
I suggest also that we continue discussion in BHS languages - and in English for people who can't write in BHS...

Povijesni kontekst

Cijela ideja oko okupljanja Drupal zajednice s područja Balkana inicijalno je započela s idejom oko organiziranja Drupal Balkan događaja koji bi okupljao sve zainteresirane s područja Ex-Yu - dakle s Bosansko / Hrvatsko / Srpskog govornog područja - budući da se svi razumijemo bez ikakvog problema.
Od prvog prijedloga, do prvog Drupal Balkan Summita nije trebalo čekati dugo, ponajviše zahvaljujući novosadskom Drupal udarničkom timu koji je prošle godine (8-9.10.2011.) upriličio odličan događaj u Novom Sadu.

Drugi, također uspješan summit, održan je nedavno (26.5.2012.) u Sarajevu, dok treći eto upravo pripremamo u Zagrebu za 11. mjesec ove godine - dakle, tempo je dva puta godišnje.

Iako slovenski jezik nije toliko jako sličan BHS skupini jezika, zbog velike (kulturne, povijesne, itd.) blizine i pokazanog interesa slovenske Drupal zajednice (pogotovo u Sarajevu), nadamo se da će četvrti DBS 2013. godine biti održan u Sloveniji. ;)

Prijedlog

Kao što sam spomenuo neizostavna je činjenica kako su bosanski, hrvatski i srpski (crnogorski također! :)) jezik toliko slični da se razumijemo bez ikakvih poteškoća. Iako svaka zajednica ima pojedinačno svoju web stranicu (čak i GDO grupu), nameće se zdravorazumski zaključak kako bi bilo genijalno kada bismo imali zajedničko mjesto na kojemu bismo mogli na vlastitom jeziku raspravljati o pitanjima i problemima koji nas se svih tiču - ovdje ponajviše mislim na pružanje podrške odnosno pomaganje novopridošlicama u Drupal svijetu. To je iznimno bitno za širenje Drupal zajednice i posljedično širenje i usavršavanje Drupal platforme.

U Sarajevu sam spomenuo kako bi nam tako neko mjesto mogla bez problema osigurati Drupal Commons distribucija - s time da sam se odmah nadovezao kako za to u pravilu niti nema potrebe - jer će GDO uskoro ionako pogoniti Drupal Commons 3 (izgrađena na Drupal 7 verziji).

Kada se to desi, imat ćemo na raspolaganju mnošto alata za organiziranje Balkan (Ex-Yu) zajednice:

Već postojeći @ GDO (6.x):

• Diskusije
• Događaji
• Ankete
• Wiki
• Posao

Dodatni @ GDO (7.x):

• Pitanja i odgovori - savršeno za pružanje podrške
• Ideje

Konkretno, moj prijedlog kako bi volio da organiziramo to mjesto:

1) Jezik

Službeni (preferirani) jezici na kojima bismo pričali bi bili bosanski, hrvatski i srpski (+crnogorski).
Dakako, za bilo kakve druge neizbježne situacije može se upotrijebiti engleski jezik.

2) Moderatori

Smatram kako bi bilo pošteno da iz svake zajednice (BiH, Hrv, Slo, Srb) bude po minimalno jedan admin.

3) Cilj

Cilj bi bilo poticanje razvoja / usvajanja Drupala u lokalnim zajednicama koje pričaju i/ili razumiju BHS jezik kroz zajedničko pružanje podrške. Zato i potreba da BHS jezici budu 99% zastupljeni.

Drugi glavni fokus bi bio Drupal Balkan Summit - dakle navedeno mjesto bismo mogli koristiti kao bazu za transparentnu organizaciju / dokumentaciju i informiranje javnosti o DBS-u.

Treće je dakako druženje i upoznavanje i jačanje Drupal Balkan zajednice što dobijemo kao posljedicu gore navedenih aktivnosti. ;)

4) Mjesto

Kako je sve već krenulo s Drupal Balkan Summit brandom tako mislim da bi logično mjesto koje cijelo vrijeme spominjem trebala biti ova (ad hoc kreirana) grupa. Iskreno, ovaj tekst sam mislio napisati i postati u Cro, Slo i Srb grupu na diskusiju i razmatranje prije otvaranja grupe, ali eto, malo se desilo obrnuto. :P

Svjestan sam da je Balkan širok pojam i da su se već javili ljudi iz drugih non-ex-yu zajednica - ali iznimno mi se bitno čini da postoji mjesto di se priča isključivo BHS - s time da koliko kužim dosta vas iz Slovenije nema s time problema - ja recimo ne razumijem slovenski nažalost - možda mogu pogoditi s 50% točnosti o čemu se radi, ali to je to... :/

Što mislite?

Historical context

Whole idea about gathering of Drupal community from the Balkans area initially began with the idea to organize Drupal Balkan event which would gather interested parties from Ex-Yu area - from area where Bosnian / Croatian / Serbian (BHS) language is spoken - because all people from that area / countries can understand each other perfectly.
From the first suggestion till the first Drupal Balkan Summit (held 8-9 October 2011) went little time - mostly thanks to the great work from the Novi Sad (Serbia) Drupal community.

Second, also successful summit, was held recently (2012, 26th May) in Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina), and we are currently preparing and planing to hold next one in November this year at Zagreb (Croatia).

Although Slovenian language is not so close to BHS language, because of great (cultural, historical, etc.) similarity and showed interest from the Slovenian Drupal community (especially in Sarajevo), we hope that the fourth DBS in 2013 will be in Slovenia. ;)

Suggestion

As I mentioned above, it's a fact that Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian (also Montenegrin) languages are so similar that we can understand each others without any problems. Although every community have their specific web page (also GDO groups), it occur to me that it would be great to have one common place where we could on our own languages discuss about questions and problems we meet in everyday work life - here I'm mostly thinking about providing support to Drupal newcomers. IMHO this is extremely important for spreading Drupal word and making our Balkan (Ex-Yu) community bigger - which after all makes Drupal platform better.

At the end of my presentation at Sarajevo I mentioned how Drupal Commons distribution could provide to us that place - but, probably this is irrelevant because GDO will soon be powered with Drupal Commons 3 (which is built at Drupal 7).

When that happens we will have at our disposal following tools for organizing Balkan (Ex-Yu) community:

Already included in GDO (6.x):

• Discussions
• Events
• Polls
• Wikis
• Jobs

Extra features @ GDO (7.x):

• Q&A - ideal for providing support
• Ideation

To be more concrete, my suggestion how to organize that place:

1) Language

Official (preferred) languages would be Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian (+ Montenegrin).
Of course, for any kind of inevitable situations we could use English language.

2) Moderators/admins

I think it would be fair to include at least one admin from every involved community.

3) Intention

Intention of this place would be further expansion of Drupal in local communities who can talk or/and understand BHS languages via providing support. Because of this is important that 99% of content / communication is in BHS languages.

Second main focus would bi on Drupal Balkan Summit event - we could use this place as base for transparent organization / documentation and relevant place for information about event himself.

Third, of course, hanging out, knowing each others and growth/strengthening of Drupal Balkan community - everything that we will get as side effects from above mentioned two main aspects. :)

4) Place

As we already have Drupal Balkan Summit brand, IMHO it would be logical to proceed with it and use this new (ad hoc twitter created) group as above mentioned "place". Honestly, I was planing to write this whole text and put it into Croatian, Slovenian & Serbian GDO groups before we actually create group, but, obviously it happened other way. :P

I'm aware of fact that Balkan is wide region and that some people from another non-ex-yu communities appeared - but, IMO it's extremely important to establish a place where we could exclusively talk in BHS languages. As I understand most of folks from Slovenia don't have problem with that - I personally only can guess with 50% of accurateness what somebody talk/write in Slovenian. :/

What is your opinions about all this stuff?