Proposition of re-discussion about the naming of this group

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Shin-gdo_J's picture

Shall we (re)discuss about the naming of this group (what to call this group) so that we have a conclusion in time for OSC2009 Nagoya, August 22nd.
We had had the discussion before but hadn't reached any conclusion.

URL "group.drupal.org/japan" has already been determined, but someone called our group "Japan Group", the other called "gdo japan". Another called simply "This group" :-)
I intend to request this discussion about the issue not because I think we have to decide the official naming but I want the nickname we can easily call our group.

I've proposed an idea/draft of the pamphlet (handout) before so that we can prepare to use it for OSC2009 Nagoya. And happily enough for me, I have received more approval and/or agreement than expected.
We now have some provisional version of the pamphlets remained that we prepared for OSC Kansai, and they may be enough for OSC2009 Nagoya.
But if we are planning to make an official --- I mean, final --- version of the pamphlet, I think we have to fix the naming of this group.

I hope everyone here feels free to make suggestions, ideas and so on, so I would like to make this thread.

I suggested this, so I do it first.

1) g.d.o./japan
Pros : somehow :-p cool. I feel not a few members use this.
Cons : can't figure out what the group is about. can't know the group is related to Drupal by this naming.

2) Drupal NIPPON
Pros : The naming NIPPON is, needless to say, unique only to Japan, Japanese people, and things related to Japan. So it is very suitable naming.
The other day, I talked with Mahesi-san (I'm sorry I don't know the spell of your name!) about the difference between Ceylon and Sri Lanka, and after I heard his thought I thought it was very suitable and natural for us to call this group "NIPPON".
Cons : Stein has pointed out that it was not so good that the name of the group and the URL's definition of the nation differed. I can understand it, but I also think that we don't have to worry about it because this is a kind of a nickname.

And I think there are kinds of the naming as "Drupal Users Group", but I don't think I like these kinds of naming.

Anyways, I hope everyone to feel free to suggest any ideas, anything at all!
(Unfortunately, the naming that contains only the two words "Drupal" and "Japan (or its abbreviation/JP, jp)" will be omitted. I can't answer the qustion why it's not good and should be omitted :-p)

NOTE
So that we can make a useful, constructive discussion, I want to propose the local rules applied only for this thread, and ask everyone who want to make a comment here obey it.
1) Don't make haste, make yourself in a flurry. Don't compel others to make haste, don't coerce others into anything you want to do it.
This is not the group only for you, and you are not a leader any more than a president. Everyone comes here spending their own precious time, and for their own purpose. Respect their thought and themselves.
2) Even if your ideas, thought and suggestions receive no responses, you should not judge the meaning egoistically, you should not take it to suit your own convenience. Of course, you should not criticize others for not making responses to you.
Everybody is supposed to be busy that they can't answer to you, or just because they are not interested in your ideas.
Or someone may be opposed to your ideas/thought, but may also think that they don't want to cause trouble by expressing their objection.
Anyways, you should know that silence doesn't always mean the approval and/or support for you.
3) Don't mention the ideas/thought that we should make another groups or sites, for now.
At this time, the purpose of this thread (and I hope the all activities in this group at present) is that activating group activities by thinking about group naming.
Under the circumstances that not so active activities are going on in this group, our resources may be scattered and lost by those kinds of thought and nothing can be gathered.
Maybe those ideas will be effective in the future, but not now.

Shin
//I'm looking forward karting next Sunday :-) >>Osonoi

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日本語訳もどぞ♪

Shin-gdo_J's picture

ちょっと長くてわかりづらそうだし、そもそも僕の英語力もかなりあやしくて、ちゃんとした英語になっているとは思えないので(笑)日本語訳もしておきますね。
一応、英語と日本語とをうまいこと(小ズルく?/笑)使い分けるといった策を弄さず、ちゃんと一言一句訳すつもりですが、日本語と英語とでは自ずから発想が違うところがありますので、狡くならない程度に意訳というか膨らませたりはしますね(汗

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OSC2009 Nagoya に向けて、このグループの呼称を(再度)話し合いませんか?
以前にもその手の話題が出てちょっと話し合ったはずですが、結局結論には達しませんでした。

URL が group.drupal.org/japan というのは決まっていますが、人によって「ジャパングループ」とか「gdo ジャパン」とか、はたまた「このグループ」(笑)とかさまざまですよね。
正式名称というよりは、僕自身は「呼びやすいニックネームを決めたい」程度の気持ちです。

OSC2009 Nagoya で使えればと思い、ここで個人的に、パンフレット(ハンドアウト)のアイデア&デザインを提案させていただいて、望外の支持・賛同をいただきました。
OSC Kansai 用にいままでのものを“とりあえず”という形で作ったものが結構残っていますので、OSC2009 Nagoya には十分かもしれませんが、もし公式版というか『完成版』をいずれ作ろうとするなら、グループ名をフィックスさせる必要があると思います。

まだ時間はありますので、皆さんが適宜、このスレッドに案・アイデア等を書いていけばいいなぁと思い、スレッドを立てさせていただきますので、よろしくお願いいたします。

まず隗より始めよということで、僕から。
前にも出た案も含めて僕がいいと思うものを、長短含めて。

1)g.d.o./japan(読み:ジーディーオー・ジャパン)
長所:なんとなくwカッコイイ。この呼び方をしている人が少なからずいる(ような気がする)
短所:なにをやってるグループか、また、Drupal のグループだということがパッと見でわからない(致命的?(^^;;)

2)Drupal NIPPON(ドゥルーパル・ニッポン)
長所:ニッポンというのは当たり前ですが日本国だけに許される呼称で、一番ユニークでふさわしい名前かと。先日、マヘーシさん(すみません、アルファベットでどう綴るのかお聞きしてなかった(^^;;)と「セイロンとスリランカの違い」について話したんですが、お考えを聞いて、じゃあ、ウチらも“ニッポン”と呼ぶのが妥当だろう、と(笑)
短所:URLとズレてしまうのはマズイ? これは実は admin の Stein からそういう話(危惧)をお聞きしています。ただ、あくまでも呼称・ニックネームとして考えれば、URL と違っちゃっても、それをは変える、合わせる必要はないのでは、というのが僕の意見です。

あと、僕はあまりありきたりで好きじゃないですけど、Drupal Users Group といった類いの名称ですかね。
ということで、皆さんのさまざまなアイデアを楽しみにしています。どんな発想でもオーケー(^_^)v

ただし、Drupal と Japan(あるいはその短縮形で JP/jp)と二語だけの組み合わせはご法度です(汗
理由に関しては聞かれてもここでは答えられませんので、聞かないでください(笑)。

NOTE
有益な議論をするために、このスレッドでのローカルルールを提案させていただき、ここでの発言者には守っていただくことをお願いしたいのですが・・・。
1)急がない、あわてない。そして人をも急かさない、人に自分がしたいことを強要しない。
ここはあなただけの場所ではなく、あなたはここのリーダーかなにかでもありません。ましてや大統領ではありません。みな、自分の大切な時間を割いて、それぞれの目的のためにここに来ています。他人の考えやその人自身を尊重しましょう。
2)他人のレスポンスがない場合も、いい悪いを勝手に判断しない。自分勝手に判断して、レスポンスがないことで他人を批判しない。
皆さんそれぞれに忙しいわけです。そのため反応できないのかもしれないし、単純に関心がないだけかもしれません。あるいは反対したいけど、波風立てるのもなぁ、と思っているだけかもしれません。
いずれにしろ、レスポンスがないからといってそれがあなたの考えに対する賛成や支持だと思ったら大間違いです。
3)別グループやサイトを作るということは考えないでください。いまのところ(^^ゞ
現時点で、このスレッドの目的(そして、このグループでの現時点でのすべての活動がそうであってほしいのですが)は、このグループのネーミングを考えることを通じて、このグループを活性化させる(ことに寄与したいという)ことです。
それほど活発な活動がされていない現在、そうした考え・行為はグループのリソースを散逸させるだけでなんのメリットもありません。
そうしたことが必要な時がいずれ来るかもしれませんが、それは今ではありません。

"Japan User Group" or

Garrett Albright's picture

"Japan User Group" or "Drupal Japan User Group" are good, I think. Short and self-explanatory.

「日本ユーザグループ」や「ドルーパル日本ユーザグループ」はいいと思います。短く、判るのがかんたんです。

I agree with this

Antoine Lafontaine's picture

"Japan User Group" or "Drupal Japan User Group" are good, I think. Short and self-explanatory.

I tend to agree with Garrett on this. I think as the group will grow, the more diverse the people will be and the less focused (outside of Drupal as a common goal) the group might become (less focused in this case is a good thing I believe since it goes with hand in hand with Drupal's flexible, "anything can goes" nature).

fyi

xbro's picture

if we decide on "Japan User Group" or "Drupal Japan User Group", change will be on front page welcome section g.d.o/japan only and not the system group name. Because this group is named "Japan" the URL is g.d.o/japan, if it was "Japan User Group" the URL will be g.d.o/japan-user-group etc..

Also because the word "Japan" is the group name when one types "Japan" to search for groups, this group shows up, also fyi. The group search at g.d.o only seems to search group name field.

For these reasons it is unlikely that the group name recorded in the g.d.o system for this group will ever change unless new g.d.o features are added or we settle with a more complicated URL. Thus we're only talking about what group name to put at the welcome section.

I agree with putting "Japan User Group" or "Japan Group" as a group name at the welcome section.

..

xbro's picture

official group name "Drupal Japan User Group", at site welcome sections etc.. displayed as "Japan User Group", at other places like conversations I will call this group "Japan Group" (preference).

If you change the name of

christefano's picture

If you change the name of this group, one of the site admins will be able to preserve the URL http://groups.drupal.org/japan for you. This has been done with other groups like the Los Angeles group, which is available at the URLs http://groups.drupal.org/los-angeles and http://groups.drupal.org/la

Thank you, christefano

Shin-gdo_J's picture

Then we can change our group to any names without causing any troubles as URLs.
Of course, I think remaining as Japan is rather better.

先日のmeetupで出てきたアイデア

osonoi's picture

先日のmeetup お疲れ様でした。
上記の
 g.d.o/japan, Drupal Nippon, Japan User Group, Drupal Japan User Group
に加え、
 JDUG (Japan Drupal User Group)
JDOG(Japan Drupal Org. Group)
これは日本で比較的活発なPostgreSQLユーザー会や横浜Linux User GroupがそれぞれJPUG, YLUGといわれているので、そこからアイデアをいただきました。

それでmeetupに集まった私たちの結論はもう少し(一週間ぐらい様子を見て)その時点のアイデアをもとに投票しましょう。
ということになりました。できればこれでいきましょう。

それ以外にこのようなアイデアもありました。
 ジューポール
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-s3DRZJKY
 しずくちゃん
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUYeFxsRDKE

が、まあ、これはビデオで楽しんでください。

some input

xbro's picture

g.d.o/japan はURLの省略で、オープンソースイベントでの正確なグループとしての登録や印刷物などでの都合上でできた物で実際グループ名として一度でもこのスレッド省いて提案されたのか疑問があります。響きはいいと思いますが。

Drupal Nipponはグループ名にJapanとないので、グループ名検索でJapanと検索したら確かg.d.oでは出てこないので問題だと思います、同じ理由でJapanが入っていないグループ名は問題あり。ニックネームだけという意味で片付けるなら別ですが、今グループ正式名とニックネームも決めようっていう感じにスレッドがなってると思います。

YLUG,JPUGとあるのなら、JDUG最高だと思います(正式名JapanDrupalUserGroup)。
(JDOGは犬と入ってるので英語の感覚では通常ちょっと問題あり)

質問、元々このグループはJapanDrupalGroupだったのですがそれで問題はあるのでしょうか?

以前、私がDrupalJapanGroupと変更して省略してJGroupとも呼べるようにして、JGroup東京やJGroup関西と呼べるようなフランチャイズっぽい呼び方はどうだと提案したらとりあえず反対はされず、その後保留になってしまったような。

私はとりあえず、なぜSteinがJapanDrupalGroupと命名したこのグループの名前を変更するのか、というところからスタートして、ついでに以前提案したDrupalJapanGroup(JGroup)を選択枝の一つとして加えて頂きたいです。

すでに提案されてい

kuwamura's picture

すでに提案されている名前にさらに候補が出たのは、おそらく省略して単語のイニシャルを繋いだときの読み方が、日本人にとってやりやすい(母音がついている)というのと、これまでのオープンソース系のコミュニティの略称などと同じような慣例にしたがったほうがなじみやすい(多分に日本人的)というくらいだと思います。
ただし、慣例的な分だけ他のコミュニティの略称と重複する可能性も高まります。

それから、drupalの日本語表記についてなのですが、「ドルーパル」というのは発音しずらいし、イメージしにくいし(どちらかというとドトールコーヒーを連想w)、音としてもあまり綺麗じゃありません。マスコットキャラクタとなっているしずくを連想させるとすれば、「デューパル」のほうが良いと思いました。デューにはマウンテンデューのdewの意味もあります。これは、2回目くらいのミートアップ(紀尾井町で)のときに、drupalaceさんでしたっけ、ちょうど雨が降っているのを、drupalと雨をひっかけて洒落てみたときに、ふと思いはじめたものでした。

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J.kuwamura

デューパル

Shin-gdo_J's picture

こういう、まったく独自の呼び方もいいかもしれないですね。

ちなみに、以前ウチの妻に僕の予定を言ってる時に「Drupal のミーティングに○月×日に行くよ」って言ったら、カレンダーに「デューパル」って書いてて驚きました。
本当にそう聞こえたらしい(笑)。

Shin
//つまり、僕の発音と彼女の耳がいいんだな(前者は嘘)

「デューパル」とい

kuwamura's picture

「デューパル」という呼び方はとても素敵です。瑞々しくて爽やかな感じがあります。
僕は勝手にそう呼ばせてもらおうと思いま(^^)

ちなみに、僕にとってLinuxは「りぬくす」なのです(関係ないか(^^;

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J.kuwamura

J.kuwamura

りぬくす

Shin-gdo_J's picture

はじめて Linux を知った時、どう読むんだろと思ったんですが、たしかに「りぬくす」って書いてあるのも見かけた覚えがあります。
Ubuntu もですけど。「うぶんつー」かと(そう読む人もいるみたい)。
あと、最近では(このあいだ kuwamura さんには言ったけど)Twitter がなぜ「とぅいったー」じゃなくて「ついったー」なのか、と小一時間w

ともかく、僕も Drupal は「でゅーぱる(dew-pal)」、ここは「じーでぃーおーじゃぱーん」って勝手に呼ばせてもらお(笑)

そうそう、Ubuntu といえば、Sharp の MID(Netwalker)に採用されててとても驚きました。いいなー、あれ。
http://www.sharp.co.jp/netwalker/
#別スレ向きの話題かな(^^ゞ

Shin
//全身筋肉痛中w

P.S.
ググってたらわかったんだけど「トゥイッター」派もいるんですねw
あと、「ヒゥィッヒヒー」派も。ロゴ見てたらそうとしか見えなくなってきたぞ(爆)

では投票の際は

osonoi's picture

DrupalJapanGroup(JGroup)も入れましょう。

meetupに来れなかったかも、これは、というのがあれば、ぜひ。

As I mentioned at another thread,

Shin-gdo_J's picture

JDUG, and the names which hint that this group is the ONLY and UNIQUE Drupal user group in Japan even if hinted clearly or not, are not accepted as our group name.

Considering about the hard and serious situation around Drupal in Japan, the names which include our URL (groups.drupal.org) must be strongly recommended. We have to indicate where we are based.

Anyways we cannot accept any names which consist only JAPAN, USER, GROUP and its complex (JAPAN USER GROUP, JAPAN GROUP, JapanDrupalGroup, DrupalJapanGroup, JGROUP, or something like those). The reason why it is needed is that our group cannot be or pretend that we are the ONLY Drupal Users Group in Japan.

If you don't want to destroy the Japanese Drupal community, please DO NOT recommend that kind of names.

Shin

Are these rules official, or

Garrett Albright's picture

Are these rules official, or are you just suggesting them?

I don't think saying that this is the "Japan User Group" implies there can be no other user groups representing Japan or parts of Japan; merely that this group in particular represents all of Japan, regardless of what other groups exist.

There is a group for the state of Florida, but there are also groups for Miami, Florida, Central Florida, and Duval County, Florida. The presence of the statewide group does not preclude the presence of more regional groups.

of course

Shin-gdo_J's picture

it's not official (as I said before, there're not any official things, I think), but it's not my mere suggestion neither, and, this is the kind of fact.
I want to explain the situation, but can't do it HERE.
Your clear guess is really expected. Please do not ask me and others for it HERE. I can't answer HERE.

I know that there're lots of user groups in the states, but the situation is much more different compared to Japan.
First of all, the states is soooo huuuuuge ! :-p

I also think it's not bad thing that there're plural Drupal user groups in Japan as well as I will be very glad that there are many active Drupal groups in Japan. I really hope so.

But the expression "Japan User Group" and/or kinds of naming seems to me that it represents Japan ONLY and MAJOR user group.
We are only a regional user group based on g.d.o/japan not (never!) the nationwide group. Yes, we MUST NOT to be.

Shin

CORRECTION 2009-08-26 17:05

We are ..... not (never!) the nationwide group.

Yes, we are. We've gathered from all over Japan (and someone from overseas).
Point is, our group may be nationwide but must not be/pretend to be representing Japan. That must cause major troubles.

And, thus

The presence of the statewide group does not preclude the presence of more regional groups.

You are right, Garrett. Sorry for my misunderstandings.

Drupal g.d.o/Japan Group

Shin-gdo_J's picture

How about "Drupal g.d.o/Japan Group" ?

It includes Drupal, URL based name, and of course, Japan.

We can use it outside of Drupal community (e.g. OSC, OSW...) because it clearly indicates we are a Drupal group.
But, we also can use it as "g.d.o/Japan" for short inside of the Drupal community, because we don't have to indicate we are a Drupal group inside the community.

Shin
//The abbreviation is DgG, DgJG or Dg/JG?
//Is it funny that Drupal is mentioned twice? But I think it is like a recursive acronym (e.g. PHP, GNU...) :-p

JDOG (Japan Drupal Org. Group),

Shin-gdo_J's picture

Osonoi mentioned, is rather good for me, because it clearly indicates we are at (under) drupal.org.

If the name is chosen, we can make a kind of dog as our logo mark.
It's very nice because I LOVE DOGS :-)

Shin

sorry..

xbro's picture

Did Microsoft send you into this group as a splinter cell?

p.s. I like dogs and cats. but I could never accept someone mistaking me from a animal lovers group while being active in a Drupal group.

Well..

xbro's picture

Shin, I have plenty to say, but I'd like to know first why it is pre-mature to take a vote and possibly name our group "Japan Drupal User Group"? While you suggest other names (supposed nicknames..) Feel free to write in Japanese.

Our group name is already officially "Japan Drupal Group" unless I'm mistaken but that's what Stein wrote down originally, and we as a group support it, and this group knows no boundaries in Japan when it comes to Drupal. Since the group home page update, it doesn't seem that specifically a group name is stated, so some may wonder what our group name is. Actually I'm starting to wonder myself, which kind of makes me think that maybe we should start to clarify and possibly make improvements whenever we can in that area. But so far I haven't heard if Japan Drupal Group is our official name, or that it isn't. But our original home page specifically stated "Welcome to Japan Drupal Group" or something like that. The reason why I remember is that I suggested in the past renaming the group to Drupal Japan Group so that we can call this group "JGroup".

JDUG is fine for me, actually it appeals to me better as other IT communities will probably see it appropriate, than any of the other names we've ever suggested.

Second, again we are a nationwide group. Correct me if I'm wrong but the meaning of Japan Drupal Group seems to mean as it is, and today Shin, you're the first to ever state that we are not a nationwide group. Again feel free to clarify in Japanese. And currently it seems to me that the other Drupal Japanese communities are unfortunately not functioning or focused on other things besides community building. Drupal.jp dropped their forums fyi(reasons last I read I thought they felt that there are better places to discuss Drupal in japan), and j-box has threads that are weeks old as their most recent comment.

So again you can correct me, but the Japan group seems like the only functioning Drupal group that can be called a community in Japan so far. Therefore this group is worthy of being named the Japan Drupal User Group (JDUG). It is already named the Drupal Japan Group, and If anyone is to oppose it's nationwide intents, it should be some rival from outside this group. Sure you can make an argument that we should be polite, or limit our image by defining us as just being one group at G.D.O but I certainly view this group as the Japan Drupal Group.

And I'm not exactly sure if you understand what a nickname is either? You want to call the group "Japan Drupal .org Group (JDOG)"? Why can't you just put it down as the choice that you like, rather than sabotaging all attempts to vote on a group name. Remember, with regards to this Stein still has the final say as he has admin rights to actually publish the group name, and it won't be appropriate to rename the group if he opposes anyway. But it'd be nice if we could tell him that some of us like the idea to call the group, JDUG.

And Shin, if you're gonna comment on my comments, can you do it without the sarcasm and attacks like you mentioned that a comment was made by someone who rarely suggests something wise meaning you think that person is dumb, or the phrase the pretender of a group board. I recall someone who tried to organize information for the group that got told to shut up and found himself in deep shit up to his neck after responding, but I don't recall anyone pretending to be a board member in a board that doesn't exist.

言いたい事は言いました。グループ名の調整、変更、もしくは明確にしてもらいたい人は一言お願いします。このままだと、また保留もしくは少数の意見で決まってしまう可能性も。これ以上私が議論したり意見を述べたところでマイナスになるので。

グループ名ぐらいは最良の形ではっきりするべきです。できればミーティングもしくはフォーラムで投票までもっていきませんか?

JDUGはかなり妥当なグ

kuwamura's picture

JDUGはかなり妥当なグループ名だと思います。

Japan Drupal Group or Japan Drupal User Group

一般的にも受け入れやすい名前だと思います。
そろそろ、投票で決めて良いのではないでしょうか。

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J.kuwamura

JDUG に一票

aiwata55's picture

日本全国の Drupal ユーザーを対象にしたユーザーグループという、このグループの性格をもっとも端的に表していると思います。ほかのソフトウェアのユーザーグループにおける命名慣習にも則っていると思います。

すでに「Drupal」「Japan」という名称を使用している個人やグループがあるとしても、まったく同一名称じゃないのであれば OK なのではないでしょうか。どちらの単語も、その個人・グループが所有権を持っているわけではないでしょうし。もし Dries Buytaert 氏や Drupal Association から名称変更を要求されれば、もちろん従わざるを得ないでしょうけどね。


Aki Iwata
FOREST & trees
http://www.forest-and-trees.com/


Aki Iwata
FOREST & trees

いや

Shin-gdo_J's picture

まずいんですよ、ほんとうに。

状況がほんとうにヤバすぎ…….。
いま長く書けないのですが。

それでいいんなら従いますが、あとどうなっても知らない(^^;;

困っちゃったな、真面目に。

とりあえず投票で名

dokumori's picture

とりあえず投票で名前を決めてから、Dries/Associationに利用許可を申請すれば良いと思う。

まだ草案だけど、Drupalというtrademarkの用途に関するポリシーがあるので、これに従ってDrupal Associationに利用申請をするというのも手ではある。

http://groups.drupal.org/node/19068

これにのっとって申請するデメリットは、メインとなるメンバーの今までのcontributionの実績を提示する必要が出てくること。そうなるとグループ内で誰がメインメンバーとなるか等の政治的な問題も出てきそうで面倒なので、これが草案のうちに許可を取り付けるのが一番早いのでは。どのような手続きであれ、最終的にDries/Associationが良いと言えば、誰も文句は言えないので。

As reading the drafts...

Shin-gdo_J's picture

I have been confused that I wonder the application must be need whenever I want to use the trademark and the drupalicon for example I would like to make some just personal blogs/sites not related to Drupal.... hmmmmm. Anyways too complicated.

By the way, at the thread, Dries said that "The result of that last iteration will be the first official version of the Drupal Trademark Policy. I hope we're able to complete that work in 2-3 weeks." on February 12th, but does it still remain as a draft?

Anyways please, please wait voting until the next monthly meet-up when we have some information about the serious situation related to Drupal (users) in Japan to be given.

Thanks in advance.

Shin

A non-draft version of the

Garrett Albright's picture

A non-draft version of the Drupal trademark policy was just made available recently.

It explicitly allows for the use of "Drupal" in non-profit user groups, training classes, etc.

thanks Garrett. I was not

dokumori's picture

thanks Garrett. I was not up-to-date. In the draft, it says even local user groups need to apply to use 'Drupal' in their group names. Glad it got much simpler.

serious situation???

xbro's picture

what is the serious situation you are talking about with regards to Drupalers in Japan? And why will that change next month (have more information)?

日本でのDrupalユーザ状況で深刻な問題があると度々述べてますが、それって何ですか?
そして来月だとなぜ都合がいいのでしょうか?

Dokumori, Garrett would you vote on JDUG.

xbro's picture

Sounds like we need a vote to take a vote on the group name. Couldn't get any complicated, LOL.
(next month we might forget about it, we almost did this month..)

in case we do happen to take a vote,

Dokumori, Garrett would you guys vote on JDUG?

sorry fuji, tbh I haven't

dokumori's picture

sorry fuji, tbh I haven't been able to follow the thread much as I've been massively snowed under (new projects, site launch, presentation at Drupalcon, etc.) and don't know what the options are. I was going to wait and see what the options are until the actual vote takes place (or even why we need to take a vote to decide whether to take a vote on the group name). I just assumed the vote would take place.

vote? and apply for license?

xbro's picture

If the license is what the fuss is about, doesn't this Group totally fit the criteria for an automatic license?
I think most groups if not all at G.D.O would. まずい状況がライセンス当の事であれば、ほとんどのG.D.OのグループがDrupal自動(オートマチック)ライセンスに当てはまると思うので問題はないと思います。

I personally have no reason why I've got to hassle more than I just have to get JDUG passed, I just think it would be a good and appropriate move. I never imagined it would become this complicated, but then again maybe I should have known. I think the idea would have passed without the fuss (which if intended in truth is OK), and based on rules at G.D.O I don't understand to an extent why we're trying to tip toe around whatever??

But I think someone other than myself should try to follow through on this.
And it does seem like we need to discuss if there are enough people interested now, but I don't think that will change next month.

Discuss this at the meeting, and vote online? How's that sound?

これに関しては個人的にはJDUGとグループが命名されたほうが得策だと思うので意見を述べていますが、私以外の人が最後まできちっとグループの議題みたいな形としてはっきりしてもらえたらいいと思います。状況は来月になっても変わらないと思いますが、雰囲気的にまだ時期尚早という見方もあるのかもしれません。しかしグループ活動として前進一歩でもあると思うので、延期する事が損であると思ってました。

誰かがJDUGグループをどこかで先に起こしたらボツですので普通は急ぐ。

是非投票をするかしないか次回のミーティングの議題のひとつにしてもらえたらいいなと思います。
ミーティングで決めて、オンライン投票でもしますか?

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