Posted by nategasser on September 24, 2008 at 8:32pm
Weekday
89% (24 votes)
Weekend
11% (3 votes)
Total votes: 27
On what day(s) should DrupalCamp take place this fall?
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This needs to be decided soon
If you have an opinion, please weigh in and leave a comment regarding your preference. Many people are involved in Drupal as part of their work, and should have no trouble getting work to send them away for a day. On the other hand, complete hobbyists will have to take a day off to attend. On the other hand, some people, especially the over-thirty-with-kids crowd have tight weekends. On the other hand, well, I'm out of hands and just want to know people's opinions.
Preferences
I personally prefer to have it during the week (and that's how I voted). However, my biggest preference is to use the event to reach out to as many potential developers/users as possible, so while I'd hate to give up my weekend, I'd definitely prefer that if enough people chime in and say that they can't make weekdays...
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
weekday
hi
i prefer weekdays for philly camp, but honestly, it will be such a a joy to have that available that...i will go regardless - weekend or weekday
:)
cass
weekday
I voted for a weekday too, much more in the work mode then, ready to absorb new information!
Weekday for me as it's
Weekday for me as it's simply more convenient and conducive to learning. Plus, living up in the Lehigh Valley and working in the Center City it would be one less day that I'd have to make the trip in.
Dave Sabol
Synergystech, LLC
1237 Salisbury Road
Allentown, PA 18103
desabol@synergystech.com
http://www.synergystech.com
http://www.associatedknowledge.com
I voted for weekday. If on
I voted for weekday. If on the weekend, I much prefer Sunday to Saturday.
Shai Gluskin
Content2zero
What about a weekday that
What about a weekday that extends into the evening? Maybe we could structure it so that beginner and hobbyist sessions happen in the 'after work' time frame. That might be off balance, tho with 'intro to drupal' happening well after 'take the next step' sessions. Or it could be a way to bring in more skill and commitment levels.
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Workday = Professional
Agree with what canaryMason is saying...
If we assume that pro drupal developers are more likely to meetup on a weekday, we could focus on more advanced topics.
Weekends are tough
I'm in for a weekday, for sure.
twitter: threehz
d.o: jrefano
well...
That was quick... Weekday it is?
I like Mason's idea too, but it might be tough to get the facilities for that long and I'm not sure how many people would spend that long at a DrupalCamp.
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
just one day?
Is one day enough? What if Day 1 was more beginner stuff and Day 2 was more advanced?
two days is my goal...
I can't promise anything, and a lot will depend on the location we end up getting and the number of sponsors we're able to attract, but I think we'll be aiming to have a two-day camp.
However, I don't think it makes much sense to stuff all the beginner stuff into one day and the advanced stuff into another, as that would mean that advanced people would probably only attend one day, and beginners another. I think having a series of intro sessions for beginners on the first day and then slightly more advanced or specific topics on the second makes more sense. The second days are also often used for code or documentation sprints, but I'm not sure what the demand for a sprint would be at this camp.
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
I agree that we shouldn't
I agree that we shouldn't segregate the audiences. Whether it's one or two days the sessions should be scheduled so that advanced/involved Drupalers will always be around to mentor the beginners.
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Workday + campout
I'm with canaryMason & pelicani on this one... I mean, for me, weekends would be ok as well.
But the first option sounds great to me -- weekday, extending into the evening (for the after work crowd).
Stellagirl, 2 days could be good... what do you think about an optional overnight camp-out? (not to literalize DrupalCamp too much, but it could be good for those interested - anyone else can just come back the next day).
...Spending time working, but also taking breaks (like a walking-meeting, or @ the park), and eating together, drinking coffee, indoor-camping... these can be times when some of the best ideas strike. (also, I'm not strictly opposed to pajama parties ;)
I wish my wife would let me...
I think it would be really great to offer a place to crash to people who want to come in from out of town. At RootsCamp DC 2005 the organizers arranged a huge house for people to crash at (it wasn't furnished, so it was on the floor), and I took advantage of it, along with 50 or so of my fellow activists. It was a great time, and I definitely made a few good friends at the "sleep over".
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech: Illuminating Technology
Let's keep thinking about this
That's something we can consider as a definite option - if it could be a help to anyone? Or even just an interesting component (whether it's just for the end of a long day, or turns into a 1.5 or 2 day event).
2 days
IMO
I'd rather see us separate intro from advanced.
This would allow the advanced to focus on presenting, networking and teaching/mentoring on one day.
Then have more advanced discussion on another day, without having to focus on teaching/mentoring.
Day one could be more presentations, without much discussion during the sessions.
Day two would be more discussion/hacking.
I'm all about having the
I'm all about having the camp on a weekday, and having two days sounds great -- though taking two days off of work is a good chunk of the week pull away from client work.
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Josh Benner
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Josh Benner
http://jbenner.net
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Weekday or weekend
I voted for weekday, but I would definitely come on a weekend as well.
next steps?
i think there is sufficient interest to get this going on a weekday.
DrupalCamp goodness is underway
We're working out details with venues now -- as soon as that's ironed out we can start talking about specific plans for the day. Leading candidate for a location is Drexel University, which I think would be perfect.
Why west philly?
If you really want this at a University, UArts would get my vote because it's in Center City. Don't get me wrong - I went to school at UPenn in west Philly - but the central location of UArts (or anywhere in Center City Philadelphia) is more appealing to me personally, and I'm guessing would probably get a bigger draw. I think it would be fine at a University, but could be equally great elsewhere.
So why should we wait till venues are ironed out to discuss day plans? Maybe we should select a venue based on the day plans we'd like to have, than the other way around. Especially since we do have options.
I agree
I think way more people would show up if it were within Center City. It's just so much more convenient.
twitter: threehz
d.o: jrefano
Center City?
Organizers of these events have to give more thought of the reach of their audience. If this was a monthly meeting, a Center City location would be better, since the most people will come as a result of convenience. This is not the case with this event.
This event is an at-most once per year affair. As a result, it's going to draw users from the suburbs, and potentially other nearby cities. New York and Baltimore are relatively short drives if it's for a yearly event. To these folks, traveling to Philly is the greater concern than where within the city limits the event is held.
Being a resident of the suburbs and a frequent attendee of monthly Philly meetups that often require me to drive in traffic for an hour both ways, it amuses and annoys me that convenience to two locations that are within 10 minutes public transit of each other causes such great consternation to city denizens.
In my opinion, the best venue should be chosen to host the event based first on it meeting our cost, space, schedule, and technical requirements. Only if more than one option remains after other considerations should we choose a venue based on its location within the city.
I agree with Scott too
Not only would a center city location draw more folks there is also much more around the area to serve as secondary draws and to support the event. I also think we need to collectively determine at least a thumbnail of the event and the types and numbers of sessions and use that to help us determine what type of space we want/need. Form follows function. Once we know the function it will be much easier to ascertain the form.
Dave Sabol
Synergystech, LLC
1237 Salisbury Road
Allentown, PA 18103
desabol@synergystech.com
http://www.synergystech.com
http://www.associatedknowledge.com
Anywhere in Philly, it's all good
Hi
I've attended seminars in both Center City, UPenn, Temple and Drexel -- honestly, any one of these locations has easy access, transportation (bus, train), and other good features to attract visitors/seminar participatns.
I think the important issue to consider, is that the lvenue allow for multiple sessions, perferably in same building where session-goers can go from session to session without lots of walking or additional traveling to and fro
Im very excited! thank you to everyone who is actively working to get this together. as a Drupal Noob im really looking forward to this (hopefully) really happening in our area!!!
Space at a university can be
Space at a university can be difficult to come by, so we're looking at what's available first before making plans and finding ourselves without a space. And I really don't think there's that much difference between Center City and University City in terms of location convenience. You're talking about an additional 5 minutes on the El, or an extra 15 minutes' walk compared to Center City.
Many of us attended the Higher Ed conference at Penn and it was an ideal setup. There's plenty of options in University City for lunch, plus, there's a strong suggestion to get on-site lunch sponsored and brought in this time, to enhance networking, so we're looking into that as well.
I will reach out to University of the Arts to determine our options there, but after getting such a positive response from Drexel so far, it really is looking like the best option.
Finally, this is only the first DrupalCamp in Philly. Most major metros do them twice a year, so there will be plenty more. Please keep an open mind and lets all try to support the effort to make it the best event it can be.