Hello, all,
Recently, some folks at the National Writing Project (a non-profit organization supporting teacher professional development and supporting student writing) created a group here on g.d.o --
The NWP is made up of various chapters nationwide, and many of these chapters maintain a web presence. Currently, these chapters use an array of tools, ranging from Wordpress to Wikispaces to Joomla! to, that's right, Drupal.
There are a growing number of NWP chapters making the move to Drupal. Many of the members are already part of the Drupal in Education group, but the Writing Project has some specific needs that don't fall as cleanly into Education, or the other group categories.
In looking at the group creation guidelines, their group lines up pretty cleanly with what we want to support here on g.d.o:
They don't overlap with an existing group.
They will be dicsussing Drupal-related issues; ie, how can their respective chapters use Drupal to power their web sites.
Their group will be open.
Their group will be a working group focused on articulating a potential distribution used to support writing projects.
Not to put to fine a point on this, but this seems like exactly the type of work we would want to highlight here on g.d.o -- a non-profit migrating to Drupal as part of a grassroots community effort. They have thousands of community members.
When their group was deleted, they received a fairly canned response:
Your Group entry entitled "National Writing Project" has been denied by our content moderator. Our group guidelines are posted at http://groups.drupal.org/node/add/og. The content has been deleted from our site.
Taking a narrow view of this, this specific group should not have been deleted. The work they do is comparable to any number of groups currently here on g.d.o -- we have groups focused on uses within specific Universities, groups created around a specific theme development shop, etc, etc. Their group fits the definition of what we want to support.
Taking a broader view, this type of generic rejection message sends the wrong message about the openness of the Drupal community -- I've been here for a while, and I know how great and welcoming this community is. However, for a newcomer to this community, this type of canned rejection would be enough to drive many people away for good.
As is probably obvious, I know the folks at the NWP, and when their group was turned down they emailed me.
I would like to:
- Create their group, and approve it myself (I have admin rights, but I wanted to be transparent about what I'm doing); and
- Add my +1 for the work going on here -- I'd be glad to help out more here, but I'll admit that I have held off from jumping in because I have felt less than clear on the criteria for rejecting groups.

Comments
I didn't review or decide
I didn't review or decide that application.
Still, based only on the title I might have rejected it too. The title is not Drupal specific. It is quite plausible that this organization will use the group as an intranet to discuss all sorts of topics. groups.drupal.org does not provide intranets. It is for discussing Drupal and thats where the title falls down. Maybe their description said - "We will discuss how Drupal is used within the NWP". While that mission meets the Drupal specific test, it fails on "broadly applicable".
It is quite reasonable to disagree with the guidelines. Lets keep refining them on the post that you mention.
Install Profile?
If it were called the National Writing Project Install Profile -- +1. From the naming and description, it could be confused with Random Group X that would like to use Drupal -- which we can't really support, since then we become Yahoo Groups.
Yes, the distinction is somewhat arbitrary, but I think stating the goal of developing a set of modules / distribution / install profile makes it clearly supportable.
And yes, go ahead and create the group, and thanks for the write up. Other admins, please be more explicit and/or ask for feedback from other moderators before deleting.
great addition
Agreed.
And I think this helps clarify we should rename the TopNotchThemes group to be more about supporting their (wildly popular) community themes.
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