Hey everybody,
Erik Bladwin (yes, that's the proper spelling as far as I'm concerned) and I recently took part in a DrupalCon Portland session entitled <a href="https://portland2013.drupal.org/session/making-drupal-meetups-and-events-rock>Making Drupal Meetups and Events Rock. As part of our preparation we, along with the other panelists, set up an online survey about Drupal meetups. One of the more surprising datapoints that came out of it was over 50% of the 161 respondents indicated that meetup.com was how people learned about their meetups. Perhaps we're missing an opportunity to grow the Florida community even more.
I know that in Brevard County, we're not using meetup.com. I'm not sure about the other local meetups around the state, but I think it's time that we make sure that we're all reaching as many Florida Drupaleros as possible.
Unfortunately, meetup.com isn't free. Fortunately, Florida DrupalCamp has run a surplus the past few years and I can't think of a better way to spend it (or can I?) and this seems like a no-brainer.
I'm not sure of the best way to do this, ideally, I'd like to be able to make one payment to meetup.com per year and have that cover all of the various Florida Drupal meetups. I'm not sure if that is possible (unless one person is the organizer of all the meetups? or a few of us share a single login?) but I'm open to ideas.
Keep in mind that I don't think meetup.com should replace http://groups.drupal.org/florida in any way, shape, or form. It should simply augment it and extend our reach.
What do you think? Is it (finally) time for all of us to embrace meetup.com?
-mike
P.S. Our session wasn't as awesome as Mike Herchel's, but you probably already knew that.

Comments
I think it's a good idea
We, in Jacksonville, are already using meetup.com (thanks Kevin), and that seems to be have enhanced our attendance. We get at least in the range of 15 or more attendees every meetup. The other factor that has helped us is that we are keeping our meetups on a regular schedule - third Tuesday of every month - and at a fixed place - Modis/Adecco office (thanks Justin).
(And congratulations on your DrupalCon presentation. I know it's hard to top Mike Herchel ;-)
--Jitesh
SpinSpire - Enterprise Drupal!
Thumbs up to using Meetup
Hi Mike,
Yes, you can make a single annual payment. The way you may want to structure it is to have a single organizer and then make individuals in the various areas either Co-Organizers or Assistant Organizers. There isn't a lot of difference between the two - a few extra permissions for Co-Organizers, but nothing that would prohibit them from creating their own meetup events.
I think one thing I'd suggest is to consider creating separate Meetup groups for the various regions of FL. After all, meetups in Tallahassee are not that relevant to those who live in Miami and all group members get a notice when a new event is posted. A lot of irrelevant postings and people may drop it or wander off. That's the only downside I see, but maybe it's not a problem.
IMO, Meetup is far superior to Groups for organizing events and it may be good as a tool for reaching people not active with Drupal but interested in the topic. It's really custom built for those things. I get the motivation for keeping things on D.O, but I'm also an advocate of using the best tool for the job and I think your suggestion is very good.
John
John Hannah
Friendly Machine
Meetup FTW
I would suggest that you start out with one account state-wide, and see what the response is. It would also cut down on the cost initially for the other groups that are smaller. Would be nice to see who all joins up for all of FL in one place? You could always split off in the future if it gets too much for people to handle. Denver does this but of course that's just one metro area compared to a whole state, and it's nice to be able to go to one place (group) and see what all is happening.
The other big plus I find in using Meetup is the fact that you can go back and see who attended. Most people have a pic posted on their Meetup account so it's easy to go back and refer to that person you just met the night before and put a name with a face. And also you can get an estimate of a count with the RSVP feature.
JCL
Completely in favor of using
Completely in favor of using funds to pay for a Meetup.com membership. I'm with John that we start with a Florida one and split if necessary but I don't think a split will be necessary.
Don VanDemark
Agile Process Manager, Blue Shield of California
Awesome Idea!
We should definitely do meetup.com!
I remember reading a block (from Level Ten, I believe) that talked about how much meetup.com helped them. I think it could only be beneficial. The only reason that we haven't yet done it in Gainesville is cost- so, having FLDC sponsor this would be great.
That all being said, we need to make sure that we create separate regional groups... we definitely don't want discussions in Miami being sent to folks in Tallahassee (unless they subscribe to the group). But.. from what I understand, this can all be done.
Awesome idea!
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Yeah, I agree about keeping things separate
Keeping discussions and emails separate will make the meetups better. Less noise, more opportunity to get to know people locally.
John Hannah
Friendly Machine
Cost is prohibitive?
$12/month for 6 months (a single $72 charge)
If you have just 6 members this is only $2 each a month. That's too much money? Find any local Drupal shop and I'm sure they could come up with $12 to sponsor. If not then maybe the future for Drupalers isn't so bright!
South Florida in da house
All three South Florida DUGs are already on meetup.com individually by county. Broward and Palm Beach have been on for a couple of years now.
Keep in mind that when you first sign up to list as many related interests as possible from the communities you want to attract. For example, Broward Drupal is listed under the following interests: Drupal · Web Content Management Systems · Web Design · Web Development · PHP · Software Developers · Web Technology · Learning Drupal · LAMP · Drupal 7 · Drupal Theming · Drupal Developers · Drupal 6 · Drupal Modules · Drupal Content Administrators.
People tracking those interests will get an email notification of the new group. Remember to put some general topics like PHP, web, etc. to get the most out of creating a group on Meetup.com.
-Hector
Broward Found Via Meetup
I discovered Broward via Meetup.com (and used it to find Tampa, also)
I assumed it was just standard that you all used it to organize things; I'm actually quite surprised to find that you're not - then again I didn't realize that it was $12 a month.
There are LOADS of Drupalers using it:
http://www.meetup.com/find/?offset=0&psize=64¤tpage=1&allMeetups=t...
I know Jay has his name as Sponsor - I'm not sure if that translates directly to business but it makes it looks good, gives him a community badge of honor and I'm sure there are opportunities for other companies to step in help with the minimal fees.
It might not be to everyone's liking but it also does link you in via Facebook and if used correctly can get more direct interest from other areas. Drupal groups don't want to be just Drupal - the truth is that you don't ALWAYS have enough to really talk about.. but throw in a few people with web marketing, web services and you can create cross culture input into Drupal. Talking about Drupal solving REAL issues in the real world is something that doesn't get enough focus imho.
Jay (and Phil) did an excellent job of bringing real world experience in. Hector does a good job of covering the educational side and now Teo and Ben bring in slightly different point of view... but there was always the sense that more time should be on actual real world case studies. Sometimes it helps to know what people are wanting and looking for and why they turn to WP, RoR, Symfony, Cake, Joomla or Umbraco (Numerous times I've been asked about Umbraco funnily enough).
Drupal loves to be drupal and organize everything in tight Drupal circles which is AWESOME for module management but terrible for socialization.
I can't think of anything better except donating Donuts at DD or Soup and Break at Panera.. whatever food item is at your location :)
Generally you will see more people looking to link different technologies there... entrepreneurs, php, social media.
I think it's well worthwhile.
Certainly NOT cost prohibative
Since so many other areas are already using it, you could just set up for central Florida, get your feet wet and then consolidate later, if it seems like a good idea. That way you can get started right away without a lot coordination and decisions to slow you down.
As a new group in Tallahassee
As a new group in Tallahassee we could certainly use this to build steam for us. However, when costs are involved and if I can help it, I never pay full price for anything ;). I've created an account with meetup and since then I get multiple offers for discounts of 50%. They also have a program for chapter organizers which gives discounts for 3 or more groups. But I imagine that they would have a bigger carrot to offer for a statewide, national or even worldwide group if the powers that be at D.O inquired. Look into "meetup everywhere" some information can be found here.
However, if a deal cant be worked out that is better than the 50% they are currently offering me, then my suggestion would be to have each meetup group organizer get their individual discount and pay for the year. They could then "apply" somehow for partial or full sponsorship/reimbursement from the Florida meetup fund depending on the individual groups' needs.
As Jitesh mentioned at the
As Jitesh mentioned at the start meetup.com has been a large part of the success in Jacksonville. We were around 5-6 people/meeting until we started using Meetup and then we quickly grew after that. Currently there are 60 people signed up for the group on meetup.
http://www.meetup.com/Jacksonville-Drupal-User-Group/
I did try the Meetup Everywhere option prior to full meetup.com and that was OK but we didn't see any increase in traffic or engagement on the site.
Kevin Basarab | Mediacurrent
I really like meetup.com as I
I really like meetup.com as I am already member of two other groups there. I think it's a great idea and would be willing to help with some of the cost
Meetup costs
I'd also be willing to help underwrite the Meetup cost.
great ideas
Wow - lots of great discussion here so far.
A couple of notes:
It seems like this is not an "if we do it" but more of a "when and how do we do it". I'd love to hear some input from Tampa, Sarasota, and Miami as well...
Thanks,
-mike
Great Idea
I think it would be a great idea for the Sarasota group --- I know I use meetup pretty regular it has great functionality.
Joe Moraca
WebDevGeeks.com
Since there is a surplus, my
Since there is a surplus, my vote is to buy bhosmer a zip-line for his back yard. I will promise to tweet and add Drupal related postings as I am using it.
I second bhosmer's zip
I second bhosmer's zip line.
Ben: You owe me some beers if this goes through.
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Need a test dummy?
I wanna go first!
-doug
You can count on it! We also
You can count on it!
We also have the perfect tester as well, so we can sit back and enjoy our frosty beverage while he tests it out.
Maybe dividing the state into
Maybe dividing the state into regions i.e. Northeast, Northwest, Central, Southeast, and Southwest for the chapters? Like the Florida State Parks. http://www.floridastateparks.org/findapark/stateparksmap.cfm
Chapterizer
Is anyone interested in becoming the Florida Drupal Users' Group "Chapterizer" on meetup.com?
Responsibilities would include:
As far as I can tell, the process is something like this:
This is a great opportunity to get yourself known in the Florida Drupal community!
Thanks,
-mike
Haven't heard any comments regarding meetup.com
From what I have read on meetup.org we have two options:
1. We can Organize for $72/6mos = $144/yr.
or
2. We can Chapterize for $100/mo = $1,200/yr.
Organizers can run up to three Meetup Groups at a time, which means we could select only two of the other three FL D_orgs NOT on meetup.com (Orlando, Sarasota, and Tallahassee), but that would not be fair.
Chapterizers can run up to 10 organizations (we could include the 6 orgs already enrolled + the 4 unregistered orgs = 10 in all).
There's a substantial difference in price for Organizer vs Chapterizer. Chapterizing is intense and will require commitment and funding from all 10 orgs. It's a strong commitment for the organizer, and may also limit future growth within Florida ...
I believe the easiest Option is for each of us to organize our own groups:
Brevard
Orlando
Sarasota
Tallahassee
Maybe some time in the future we could consider chapterizing.
I can organize the Brevard Group. Who will organize the other three?
Sandy
I concur
...with your suggestion.
sign me up
seems like a great tool
Joe Moraca
WebDevGeeks.com
I volunteer Joe Moraca.
I volunteer Joe Moraca.
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There can be only one
I volunteer the awesome Mike Herchel.
I second that motion
I second that motion to volunteer the awesome Mike Herchel.
Hector, I'm not sure it's
Hector, I'm not sure it's legal to second your own motions :)
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Good point
Mike H.,
Good point. My vote is disqualified :)
Hector
Chapterizer
I volunteer. If we need to hold an election, I am soliciting for donations to my campaign as of right now!
I vote for Sandy!
I vote for Sandy!
Sandy Rocks!!!
...well actually anyone BUT Herchel.
-doug
Hurricane Sandy
Sandy seriously rocks.
Well, Gainesville took the
Well, Gainesville took the plunge. We're officially on Meetup.com
http://www.meetup.com/Gainesville-Drupal-Users-Group/
Everybody go ahead and join now so 1) it looks like we have a lot of people (traction) and 2) I can SPAM you! :)
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Can I join?
Can I join JUST for the spam??
-doug
Yes. Yes, you can. Join for
Yes. Yes, you can.
Join for the spam, you can.
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Just a note to everyone.
Just a note to everyone. Create your meetup.com account at least 7 days before your actual meetup, so they announce your group in time.
I created the GNV meetup 3 days before, and they're going to announce it the day after the meetup. I emailed them, but there's nothing they can do.
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go!
Sandy,
Since you volunteered, let's get this ball rolling...
First thing for you to do it to track down all the meetup organizers from around the state and contact them and find out if they're already using meetup.com, and if so, if they'd like to participate in this effort (no worries if they don't).
Here's a quick rundown as I see it:
Then, once we know how many groups are interested in participating, you'll need to do some research on meetup.com about if it makes sense to do the "chapterize" thing or just create/pay-for a bunch of separate meetup groups.
Make sense? Anyone have anything else to add?
Thanks,
-mike
Broward & Palm Beach
I go to both and I know people would be interested
Andrew Klepner
www.brighteridea.com
Jacksonville is on it and at:
Jacksonville is on it and at: http://www.meetup.com/Jacksonville-Drupal-User-Group/
Kevin Basarab | Mediacurrent
The following FL Drupal Orgs
The following FL Drupal Orgs are already on Meetup w/these organizers:
Broward - Hector Iribarne, Jay-Epstein
Gainesville - Mike Herchel
Jacksonville - Kevin/Jitesh
Miami - Ronald Norman
W Palm Beach John Studdard
Tampa Bay - Chris Budy
That leaves
Brevard
Orlando
Sarasora
Tallahassee
Sandy
Tampa's already on there.
Hey all, sorry I missed this conversation was out of town for a bit.
Tampa is already on meetup: http://www.meetup.com/tb-drupal/
It's currently 'organized' by me. One of the nice things with Meetup is that it really can be pretty low touch as you can setup recurring meetings, etc.
We've been using it for a while now, and we probably get roughly 1-2 new Meetup members a month on average. Some of them actually come to the meetings, and some don't, but I definitely agree with everyone who's already stated, it definitely increases exposure for your group.
Chris Budy
Heavy Robot
existing Drupal groups on Meetup.com
Mike (everyone) -
Am I missing something? Is there even a Drupal-related group on Meetup.com currently? I logged in, searched, and didn't find anything.
Dan Dease
ddease2 - Skype
@ddease2 - Twitter
/dandease - Facebook
/in/dandease - LinkedIn
within 25 miles of me
I figured it out. But I'm surprised there's never been a group started in CF.
This is a GREAT opportunity to grow the Orlando group! I'm definitely in.
Dan Dease
ddease2 - Skype
@ddease2 - Twitter
/dandease - Facebook
/in/dandease - LinkedIn
Drupal Statewide Meetup
Drupal of Miami is interested in this. I already do a Meetup so yo can count me in.
Ronald Norman, Drupal of Miami
Orlando would like to join
Orlando would like to join the effort. Let me know what you'd like us to do.
Don VanDemark
Agile Process Manager, Blue Shield of California
meetup.com
From what I have read on meetup.org we have two options:
1. We can Organize for $72/6mos = $144/yr.
or
2. We can Chapterize for $100/mo = $1,200/yr.
Organizers can run up to three Meetup Groups at a time, which means we could select only two of the other three FL D_orgs NOT on meetup.com (Orlando, Sarasota, and Tallahassee), but that would not be fair.
Chapterizers can run up to 10 organizations (we could include the 6 orgs already enrolled + the 4 unregistered orgs = 10 in all).
There's a substantial difference in price for Organizer vs Chapterizer. Chapterizing is intense and will require commitment and funding from all 10 orgs. It's a strong commitment for the organizer, and may also limit future growth within Florida ...
I believe the easiest Option is for each of us to organize our own group (Brevard, Orlando, Sarasota, and Tallahassee).
Maybe some time in the future we could consider joining and becoming a chapter.
Let's all give meetup.com a chance and see how our memberships grow throughout Florida.
Sandy
I guess it depends on how
I guess it depends on how much of a surplus Mike is talking about, "Fortunately, Florida DrupalCamp has run a surplus the past few years and I can't think of a better way to spend it (or can I?)" and whether or not there is a better way to spend it. $1200 a year for 10 groups = $10 a month per group correct?
I think that's too much of a
I think that's too much of a surplus to expect to be there every year.
Don VanDemark
Agile Process Manager, Blue Shield of California
workload
I think I'm squarely on the fence about the Florida community doing this meetup.com chapterizing thing for a few reasons:
Thoughts?
-mike
I agree
Try individual first. You can always change it later if there seems to be a need.
What concerns me most
What concerns me most regarding chapterizer / organizer workload is the fact that we aren't getting much of a response from the other communities now. I still don't know who would be in charge of meetings for Orlando, Sarasota or Tallahassee. I would need 100% commitment from all ten groups to chapterize and it's not there. Besides that, the funding is not guaranteed - another shared responsibility.
Again, I suggest we start with local orgs. Once we are all up and running individually, we can discuss the future possibility of chapterizing.
Sandy