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greggles's picture

There is now a sales offer in http://groups.drupal.org/node/16211 that is listed as a job. I'm not sure how to react. On the one hand, that just seems like an inappropriate use of the job content type. On the other, why not let people advertise their services in some way? Perhaps we need a new "services offered" content type and view.

The main drawback to that in my opinion would be that it could easily become a firehose of spam.

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I just deleted it. It isn't

moshe weitzman's picture

I just deleted it. It isn't a job.

To be honest, jobs on gdo are more of a pain than a help. i'd just as soon move them to some other site during the redesign. or at least not let them get posted into audiences.

I do passionately think that events are a perfect match with our geographic user groups so I wish to keep those close to the groups.

RE: "at least not let them

bonobo's picture

RE: "at least not let them get posted into audiences."

I agree -- this has been a pain in the past.

How about:

  1. Removing jobs from groups.
  2. Setting up a view that listed "job" content types.
  3. Creating two new vocabularies for jobs: one for description, one for geographic location
  4. Possibly setting jobs to be moderated, thus minimizing spam (and yes, creating another admin task).

This get's jobs out of groups, sets up categories for jobs (based on taxonomy) that people can subscribe to, and separates jobs from groups, this making it easier to peel them from g.d.o during the redesign.

If this is something you would want done, I'd be glad to set up this structure -- I'd need rights to make these changes, but once we agreed on what this should look like it wouldn't be that hard to execute.


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I really like jobs...

greggles's picture

I don't use them often, but I get the impression that they are useful.

If we got rid of "jobs" then I think people would post them as discussions since jobs are often very local.

Is the major problem the "4 group limit" ? If so I'd happily write a custom nodeapi hook to enforce that.

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bonobo's picture

Do you think a geographic taxonomy would not be sufficient for that? Using a Jobs content type that was tied to a Location taxonomy would allow people to subscribe to jobs for specific geographic areas; this is more granular than what we have now -- we have the full jobs feed, but no way of filtering by geographic locale (unless I'm missing something, which is always possible).


FunnyMonkey
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michelle's picture

I'd like to see jobs limited to the geographic groups if possible. They make sense there. But it always has bugged me having a job posted to one of the non geographical topic groups just because the job is vaguely related to the topic.

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Another vote for keeping

kyle_mathews's picture

Another vote for keeping jobs in local groups. They've proved useful / non-spammy in the Utah group in the past.
Kyle Mathews

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bonobo's picture

Hmmm.

http://drupal.org/node/192933 :) It's like the cat; it keeps coming back!

We have working code here; if there's interest we'd be glad to work to get this into D5 and D6 OG.


FunnyMonkey
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Jobs generally annoy me as

rcross's picture

Jobs generally annoy me as well, but I do think people find them useful in the groups I'm involved with. I also agree that if you remove jobs from the site, you'll just get people posting jobs as discussions so I would vote to keep them.

@billfitzgerald - you can get a view of just the jobs for a specific group from the groups home page.

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Never mind jobs

greg.harvey's picture

What happened to the original "service" suggestion? It would be great to have a space to say "hey, we're here and we're a Drupal service provider" somewhere.

Here you go

michelle's picture

http://groups.drupal.org/available-for-hire

Getting a bit crowded. Hopefully something better will be done in the redesign.

Michelle

Thanks!

greg.harvey's picture

Cool, didn't realise it exists already. =)

Edit: I'm such an idiot - I already put my company on there and completely forgot. >-<

Yeah, that list is totally a

Garrett Albright's picture

Yeah, that list is totally a mess. Someone should totally build a site which uses a proper database to clean all that up, and make it so you can easily sort the data so you can, say, find all themers in France or something like that. Hmm, does anyone know of any web frameworks/CMSs which are good at building those kinds of sites?

Weekend project… hmm.

France

greg.harvey's picture

Funny you should use France as an example - the French community are showing us the way:
http://drupalfr.org/annuaire-pro

There's us, look (CMS Pros):
http://drupalfr.org/annuaire-pro?filter0=Développement&filter1=04+Sud+Est&filter2=Autre&filter3=Entre+2+et+4

If only it were as easy as just creating a View and exposing some filters... =P

Keep jobs local pls!

arianek's picture

Michelle beat me to posting that link - it's not the best, but it does at least create a space for it.

But as far as keeping jobs in groups, I actually think it is really important - in cities that are tech hubs, like Vancouver, users and companies alike find it to be a great resource. I am an admin for the Vancouver group, and it is used frequently (and for the most part quite properly).

Since we have our lovely panels available now, it is not a lot of work to customize a group's pages so that the jobs don't take the center stage. You can check out what I threw together on http://groups.drupal.org/vancouver if you're interested.

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