I am trying to build a site in Drupal 6 which has two main content types:
Music Album (with uploaded audio mp3s of every track, displayed in a single Flash player)
Music Video (with uploaded video displayed in a Flash player)
I'd like to do this using Media Mover and related modules. So far, I've had no success whatsoever probably due to one simple reason: There's no documentation. Some of the contributed modules have some stubs, but nothing substantial. Other modules, like FLV Media Player, don't have any documentation at all.
I know Media Mover can be used for a wide variety of things, but there doesn't seem to be enough information available to piece together how to do some very specific things, like the examples I mentioned above.
I'd love to see a couple walkthrough tutorials/wikis on exactly how to set up Media Mover from the ground up, what modules to enable, what related files to download, where to get them, where to install them, what settings to enable in other modules, and how to attach files to a node, have those attached files get picked up as an XSPF playlist, and displayed in the node via an FLV player. And like many people, I'd love to see it demonstrated on a shared host (i.e. not 'localhost'), and using regular directory storage of the very few songs and videos I have (i.e. not using Amazon's S3 service).
I'd feel bad if I had to submit a bunch of issues/support requests to the project maintainers. I wouldn't have to if everything was just clearly documented somewhere. I've found the video of "DruTube", a Media Mover demonstration and even the crib notes from that very presentation, but not any detailed step-by-step written documentation on how to do this sort of thing... certainly not much on drupal.org.
If I had any idea how to perform the operations intended, I'd gladly write this sort of tutorial myself. Until then, I need some advice from someone with more experience. Would somebody with better luck than me like to take a stab at this?
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A couple things --
It doesn't sound like you need or want media mover.
You say, "how to attach files to a node, have those attached files get picked up as an XSPF playlist, and displayed in the node via an FLV player. And like many people, I'd love to see it demonstrated on a shared host (i.e. not 'localhost'), and using regular directory storage of the very few songs and videos I have (i.e. not using Amazon's S3 service)."
If you don't want use S3, and don't want to transcode media on the fly, and only have a small number of media files, it sounds like you don't want media Mover.
Try FileField and Jquery Media, SWFTools, or XSPF Playlist module -- what you are describing can be achieved in a variety of ways.
As to the lack of documentation, the chances of someone writing a soup to nuts documentation for this is pretty slim. If you want to see it happen, contribute what you can, point out what is missing, and let others with a broader knowledge pick it up from there.
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I actually do want to do on-the-fly transcoding. That's getting even more granular, using modules like FFmpeg Wrapper which I'm stumbling with as well. In fact, if I could just get this one module working correctly, I bet the rest would come easily. (More details about my FFmpeg Wrapper issue)
I've got about 6 music albums and 5 short videos... I think using S3 is excessive for such a small amount of data.
Thanks for the advice about the other methods. I'll look into them. It doesn't excuse the original request, however. While it might be unrealistic to have a completely idiot-proof tutorial, I don't think it's too much to ask for even basic documentation on drupal.org. Media Mover has so many components and options available that it's bewildering without some kind of a general installation/setup guide.
Again, I'd be happy to write such a guide if I were able to get any of these components working on my own.
media mover seems to be an
media mover seems to be an awesome set of modules lacking documentation. i'm by no means a drupal noob but i've have difficulty setting up more than one module and have also seen various errors.
i suspect part of the problem is most of the code not yet production ready (mostly beta & alpha) and the feature set continues to change. however, in order for the developers to get some good feedback, it would be nice to include etierh some documentation or screencasts showing a typical setup, so that others may also get it going and provide some feedback.
fwiw - i recently updated the handbook page for the xspf_playlist module. i still can't get it to work with views, or I'd update that section as well. (another area that is rapidly changing, and version 6.x does not yet support views 2).
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I'm actually working with contributing to the FlashVideo module currently which does a great job of transcoding and displaying video files. That could handle at least the video portion of what you need above. I've recently added a lot of setup instructions to the module's help files. There's also a decent tutorial for setup on the project page. http://drupal.org/project/flashvideo
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Looking for something VERY similar!
Hey! I'm testing out Media Mover with D6, but I am facing the same roadblock as fr0st. I already have a running website, built in D5, but posting audio albums on it is not as smooth as I would want it to be.
But in Media Mover, I see hope. So am trying out media mover to see how exactly can it help me automate the task of publishing of audio content.
This is what I have achieved so far: Added a configuration to harvest files from FTP successfully. Now I've to figure out the latter part, as stated by fr0st:
Lack of documentation is certainly a big hindrance in achieving the desired results without much trial and error. But I hope to help continue building on the processes and mechanism here. And I hope others chip in too with their guides.
A year and a half later, and
A year and a half later, and I've got the same problem. I've installed a suite of modules and poked around at various settings but nothing works. I want to upload a video, have it automatically save to Youtube, and then display the embedded youtube video back in my node, and I have no idea how to actually do that. I'm thinking this may help: http://barcamp.org/w/page/402643/DruTubeNotes
5 more months later and I am
5 more months later and I am trying to figure out the same. Media Mover looks like a fabulous suite of modules that needs solid documentation.
I have been having a hell of a time trying to get Media Mover MailHandler to work with IMAP harvesting (after ensuring that "Mailhandler" ... the other module it depends on ... works properly to authenticate & connect using the same credentials to the same mailbox via IMAP).
Oh well.
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