What I'd like to see

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uNeedStuff's picture

I've spent my hour and now have to move on to paying work ;-) lol what I like to see simplified is:
Node, what is it and what does it do for you?
Taxonomy, what does it do for you? Also need to cover that it's under Category in the Admin area
Breadcrumb, what is it and what does it do for you?
Creating content. How, and what you can do with it after it's created.

I personally still need to get much clearer on menus, and Taxonomy vs CCK fields. I'm thinking one is more about structure (Taxonomy) and the other is more about presentation (CCK), but I'd like to get my personal understanding nailed on on that.

I also want to make sure were not recreating the wheel, so need cross ref what already exists on the site.

Rock on!
Shari

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nancydru's picture

I don't see where I can do anything here other than make comments, so here goes:

A node is a container for stuff (sorry for the technical term). Some of that stuff is the content you create. Drupal itself creates a few nodes for its own stuff.

A Taxonomy is a way of characterizing stuff. It can be used for grouping, selecting, and protecting stuff. The highest level of taxonomy description is the "vocabulary;" it is used for defining the terms, or tags, that actually end up on your stuff to be used for the various purposes. Each vocabulary has one or more "terms" that are used to tag (i.e. define, or describe) your stuff. The vocabulary is assigned to input types (e.g. stories, recipes); terms are assigned to a given piece of content (e.g. "Groundbreaking Research on Macadamia Nut Yields" or "My Fabulous Macadamia Brittle"). Notice that I said "terms" - plural - because an individual node may have more than one term associated with it; for example, the "Research" news article may be assigned to "Nuts," "Trees," " and "Harvesting." It could then be viewed through any of those terms (or keywords).

Breadcrumbs is a term borrowed from "Hansel and Gretel," who left crumbs of bread along their path so they could find their way back out of the forest. In current computer parlance, it refers to the section, usually near the top of the page, that shows the path your followed to locate the current page. For example, it might show Home > Macadamia Nuts > Current Events > News Articles, meaning that you started at the home page, clicked on "Macadamia Nuts" in the menu, then selected "Current Events" in the sub-menu, and finally selected, "News Articles."


Now, a personal note: I understand that a lot of people like to jump right in on creating their own content types (such as CCK). In my opinion, that is a subject for "intermediates" not beginners. Installing and using contributed modules (out-of-the-box) is beginner stuff. Personally extending Drupal with custom content or programming (even snippets) is beyond beginner level.

In that context, I would love for Drupal to be able to keep me at "beginner" level, but it won't happen. I have already installed a few snippets and even made a few minor changes to module code. I really don't like doing that. My original background is as a systems programmer on mainframes (that's the person who installs, maintains, and fixes the operating system). I saw first-hand, and even created some of, the hassles that can be created by modifying out-of-the-box software that is ever-changing. Heaven help me if I ever get to the "advanced" stage in Drupal!

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

Hi Nancy, you can't make

uNeedStuff's picture

Hi Nancy, you can't make changes here, but you can at the drupaldojo.org site, however when I was there earlier the only way to find the Wiki pages was to click on recent changes. If you don't get a chance to double post them... meaning here and there, I'll get to it tomorrow. I was going to check your current stuff and possible use some of it here, the intent is to really try and explain things in a way that people know what, how and why they would want to use something. What is the value to them or their end user.

I think that understanding the adds will help beginners and feel that it's a necessary part of understanding Drupal. I didn't want to create a ton of content and then have to go back and fix it which is why I downloaded 40 modules. I am starting all over LOL because I didn't understand what I had or how to decide what I needed, that is what I'm trying to give someone new. I do know now that having a place to play is almost a necessity if you want more then a out of the box install.

Thanks for this!
Shari

Shari
I may be different,
may I never be indifferent.

More to come

nancydru's picture

Steven Peck had a post on the main site challenging people to create a simple corporate brochure site. There are already several responses. But I was thinking of doing it and trying to document my whole thought process as a way to show new people "how to create a site." I think my first thoughts are already on my Docs site.

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

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nancydru's picture

Okay, I spent a while putting together more definitions. Take a look at My Glossary.

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

Something I'd love to see

nancydru's picture

I've looked over the stuff on Drupal.org on Views, and find that they are pretty much useless. I'd like to see a step-by-step tutorial on setting up a useful view that works.

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

WHEWF

uNeedStuff's picture

I feel everything that gets put into the Simple Documentation needs to include all these pieces.

What it is & does.
How the person can do it.
Example of what it will do.
Why you would want to do it.
Further reading.

They don't have to be in that order I just like the acronym.

Shari
I may be different,
may I never be indifferent.

Hmm

nancydru's picture

I kind of like changing "why" to "reason" or "rationale." WHERF is easier to pronounce than WHEWF. ;-)

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

LOL!

uNeedStuff's picture

Sounds good to me WHERF!

Shari
I may be different,
may I never be indifferent.

Shari
I may be different,
may I never be indifferent.

Worth a mention in beginner docs

nancydru's picture

The Road to Drupal Hell

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

I'm so proud of this

nancydru's picture

Just created another book page on the main site: Adding Hidden Site Design Notes - how to put design or maintenance notes on your site that only admins can see.

Nancy W.
now running 4 sites on Drupal so far
Drupal Cookbook (for New Drupallers)

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