Jobs section

There's already a Jobs group at https://groups.drupal.org/drupal-jobs. Why should there be more than on Jobs area?

Ken

https://groups.drupal.org/drupal-jobs is an actual GROUP whos posting guidelines state "This group is for businesses seeking employees/freelancers to work on Drupal-specific jobs. This is not for people seeking work or for recruiters."

https://groups.drupal.org/jobs is a VIEWS Page-Display listing ALL job nodes across ALL groups.

I took a quick peek at the 1st 4 pages of posts on /drupal-jobs and saw that of the 80 posts, 78 were JOB nodes and 2 were EVENT nodes that related to a job fair or similar event. It's important to note that the EVENT nodes [while job related] would never appear on /jobs.

Just thought I throw out a couple simple facts to keep the conversation well informed. ;-)
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This section is so biased it's hard for me to believe:

, and it’s not useful for anyone. We need a specific section for job postings on D.o, in the Marketplace. With possibility to filter jobs, subscribe to specific type of jobs etc.

The groups.drupal.org/jobs page is the most popular single page on g.d.o. Clearly it is useful for someone ;)

When I think about posting a job into the drupal community I would like to do it based on

• The skills needed for the job
• The geography from which the job will accept applicants

We have a system for organizing content and for people to get notifications based on related skill (working groups) and geographic location (regional groups). If we remove jobs from groups we would then have to recreate the taxonomies of skills and regions and we would have to recreate notification systems. What exactly would we have gained?

The proposal lists some goals, but those can be improved without moving them off g.d.o:

• Close to Drupal services listing - create a way to refer to the marketplace from g.d.o - this is also important for Drupalcon sites.
• Better user experience than g.d.o/jobs - if there are specific issues with that page they can be improved...in that page. Saying "the new version will be better" is a true-ism. Of course a new version that has been designed in the last 4 years will be better than what exists now.
• Potential revenue source, which will help make Drupal.org sustainable - any idea to make money on job postings could also be achieved via g.d.o. As someone who has posted jobs and will likely do it again, I would want to have my job posted into the highest visibility location. Moving jobs from g.d.o to a new home would lose a lot of subscribers (via email or rss if not the browser) so it would decrease the amount I'm willing to pay for it.

I would be very much in favor of fixing things that annoy people about jobs on g.d.o. Based on my experience, the two most annoying things are:

• Allow individuals to not get emails about jobs from any group
• Allow group admins to prohibit the posting of new jobs into their group

But I'm stumped by the original motivation and proposal in this wiki.

A dedicated jobs.drupal.org could be a really nice, focused site but his might be a situation where using a third party might be more effective than rolling our own solution. There are a lot of features required to make a jobs board good.