Zen-6x-1.0 Defaults Theme settings and Subtheme (zen-6x-1.0 @ Drupal-6.12 )

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onzenet's picture

Hello World : )

I'm experiencing a lot of problem customizing my own subtheme with Zen-6x-1.0 because of the defaults theme settings overriding the subthemes ones .

Apparently (googling around ...) this problem seems to be already known but i can't find a clear solution to either disabling the default settings or the subthemes parameters ....

Any tips, links or info will be much appreciated

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If you change the value in

Garrett Albright's picture

If you change the value in the theme's .info file, it should change its default; or comment out the line to disable it entirely.

Could you maybe be more specific on what you're trying to do?

Re: If you change the value in

onzenet's picture

please see my answer below ... (let's be positive, you avoid my english for now ;) ... I'm interested in your approach , i wish i could set/enable the parameters like site-name , slogan , primary-links .etc in the .info file of my subtheme but don't know how ( something like settings[zen_breadcrumb] = yes ??? )

Did you build your subtheme using STARTERKIT?

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Did you build your subtheme using STARTERKIT? I always make sure that I follow the documentation steps for that so that everything works smoothly. You can find those at: http://drupal.org/node/226507

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Re: Did you build your subtheme using STARTERKIT?

onzenet's picture

Absolutely, I've followed step by step the documentation ( http://drupal.org/node/226507 included ) . Everything is working well except
I have to play between the parameters of the 'main theme settings' (e.g site name , slogan , primary link ) and the ones in my zen subtheme ... The fact is If I enabled for instance both the primary link , checking the box in the configuration admin theme (http://localhost/admin/build/themes/settings ) and the primary link in my subtheme (http://localhost/admin/build/themes/settings/newzen) then i get 2 "primary" menu in the navbar .
Another strange behaviour happens with 'site-same' option depending on where it comes from (theme main setting or subtheme ) for instance (and to be short ;) if i disabled it in theme setting and enabled it in subtheme , site-name is still displayed with the div from theme parameters (i mean not from subtheme...) ... well depending on what pages i'm surfing ...
This problem looks like http://drupal.org/node/260924 (Zen doesn't reflect changes to global theme settings) except for the happy ending ^^
By the way , the subtheme (newzen) is the only theme activated in my conf. and is the default one ... I did use StarterKit to build my subtheme. (i found another post on drupal group talking about inheritance problem with zen subtheme , sorry i can't retrieve it at the moment .. )

This sounds really

Garrett Albright's picture

This sounds really strange… I wonder what your theme listing page looks like. Could you maybe post a screenshot?

Also, where in the Drupal directory tree have you placed Zen and your subtheme?

!important

frank ralf's picture

As a last resort you can give your own CSS a little more punch with using !important.

hth
Frank

Not really :(

niklp's picture

I know how tempting that can be, but using !important is a REAL hack - it should never be used unless you're completely sure your site won't be used by mobile/less-abled/etc users, because it overrides user defaults in browsers.

That is, if a user with poor sight uses the website and has their own default CSS enabled, these rules will break that, which is Very Bad Juju.

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Agreed that using !important

Garrett Albright's picture

Agreed that using !important should be avoided when necessary, but from the sound of things, I don't think this is a CSS issue anyway.

I always make sure that I

Garrett Albright's picture

I always make sure that I follow the documentation steps for that so that everything works smoothly.

What? You haven't discovered Zenophile yet? :)

onzenet's picture

hi there,

thanks for your answers and comments ... regarding the Zen subtheme's problem , i'm going to restart from scratch since the trouble seems to come from my page.tpl.php (yep, not from the css ...) . Besides I shoud have misunderstood how to use blocks in Drupal ... Zenophile looks nice , thank you , i'll have a try .. i'm also testing blueprint (much easier ..) . I'm new to Drupal but appreciate at least its community :) thanks for your help.