Posted by Anonymous on May 27, 2009 at 1:31pm
Last updated by yoroy on Mon, 2011-08-01 22:47
Last updated by yoroy on Mon, 2011-08-01 22:47
Welcome, how nice of you to drop by. Some quick pointers if you'd like to dive deeper into the ongoing ux design work for Drupal core & contrib:
Where the work is done:
- Core issues tagged 'usability'
Where documentation lives:
- User interface standards
Meetings get organised:
- UX open hours 1, 2, …
Talk & discuss:
Most of the above begins either in IRC in #drupal-contribute and #drupal-usability or right here in this usability group.
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Hello
I'm new here, but I've been using Drupal for a couple of years to one extent or another. I do web design and accessibility work for both business and government sites. I still do static HTML and other CMS products, but I've been pushing Drupal fairly hard for the last year or so.
Most of my clients have high accessibility requirements, both for the anonymous user and for admin sections, so Drupal's ability to style the admin interface has been a huge plus.
Hi DouglasT and welcome!
Hi DouglasT and welcome! It's always interesting to hear what people do to the default Drupal admin interface to make it work for them. Be sure to have a look at the topics in the D7UX framework, accessability itself is one of them: http://www.d7ux.org/accessibility/ Any specific things-I-always-do to make the Drupal admin pages work for you?
It's still early days for http://www.d7ux.org/microprojects/ but if you have that nagging feeling you might want to contribute somehow somewhere, go signup there :-)
See you around!
hi :)
popping in to say hi!
I'm working with Mark Boulton on the D7UX project (please come get involved!)
relatively new to Drupal but a bit of an old hand at UX and have worked on design & usability for a few content management platforms over the years.
never one with such a great community tho - although the more of us UX people the better!
i also just want to encourage those of you who aren't usually into IRC to give it a go!
yes, it is terrifically dorky, but it's where all the action is going on and if you do want to get involved in the community you really do need to be there.
I'm on a Mac and use Colloquy which was relatively painless to get set up. Don't be shy to ask questions about how to get it up and running - I don't think anyone should be expected to have a good working knowledge of IRC unless they are old school developers :)
leisa reichelt - disambiguity.com
user experience consultant (design research and user centred design)
working with Mark Boulton Design on the drupal.org redesign project
leisa reichelt - disambiguity.com
@leisa
Hi
I'm new to the usability group. I'm interested learning about cool projects that I may contribute to (I'm signing up for http://www.d7ux.org/microprojects/). I have some experience with Drupal (mainly evaluating it against other systems) and I'm currently studying Human-Computer Interactions. I look forward to helping out.
Hi Folks
I'm new to Drupal also, hoping to use the platform to redo my organization's website. In development now. I'm using Drupal and CiviCRM. Any improvements to Drupal's usability are welcome as many of my users would not be considered power users.
Though pretty new, I think
Though pretty new, I think you could include a little more about Drupal 7 UX. Yes, your article gives a better overview of it, but still, to get started is that all we need? There must be much more. I would like to see more articles from you in future, as you presented the matter pretty clearly.
Sharon Carson
Who are you refering to with
Who are you refering to with 'you'? :-) I agree that we should work on more 'getting started' materials. Anything specific you have in mind?
Hi, and a reply
Hi there,
I'm a user experience designer and a developer as well. (Such is the world of the web.)
I'd love to get started in helping out as well.
I've had some experience with Drupal installations and also felt the need to soften and guide the learning curve journey on Drupal for Users, Administrators and developers.
As for Getting started material, is there a framework you wish to work through.
How would we like the process of collaborating thoughts and comments.
Any core topics and objectives / goals we want to achieve.
Is there a benchmark to meet.
I'm sure there are more questions (back to day job for now)
hello!
Have to admit this group here has been rather quiet the last months. Most of the action is in the actual issue queues on drupal.org. Some starterpages would be:
http://drupal.org/community-initiatives/drupal-core/usability
www.d7ux.org
and http://www.bojhan.nl/reflections-on-a-d7ux-project/
the ux issue queue: http://drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?version[0]=7.x&issue_tags=Usability%2C%20d7ux
** As for Getting started material, is there a framework you wish to work through.
We are in 'polish' phase now for D7, code, strings, interactions are frozen, only bug fixes etc.
Look at the 'categories' in the right column of d7ux.org.
http://www.yoroy.com/2009/reorganize-drupal-admin-items-within-d7ux-fram... is a video that tries to outline the big picture thinking.
** How would we like the process of collaborating thoughts and comments.
Yes, that's a big question still. Experience has tought that anything you do outside the issue queue will be done again in the issue queue:
http://drupal.org/node/569552
http://drupal.org/node/651484
** Any core topics and objectives / goals we want to achieve.
http://buytaert.net/8-steps-for-drupal-8
** Is there a benchmark to meet.
Every new version of Drupal should be the best version ever.
Should hopefully give you some idea of what we're doing. Join #drupal and #drupal-contribute on IRC and talk to bojhan or yoroy :) Thanks for asking these questions!
Great, I had found you via Sitepoint
Thanks for the links. I'll get myself up to speed.
I found this group via a tech website called Sitepoint talking about your mission here.
So I'm very new, sorry I came in too late to assist.
Did I read correctly that you're preparing for the future Drupal 8?
I'll start off with that.
Thanks again for the reply.
There's still work to do on D7
Will, word is that Drupal 8 is beginning now. I guess that means that any idea that you have for improving upon Drupal that hasn't made it into Drupal 7 is something to work on as a Drupal 8 project, even if only in your own mind for a while.
But there are still issues that need to be fixed for Drupal 7. I'm not contradicting anything yoroy said, but just pointing out that we can use help completing just the kind of issues he describes. If you can review php code, all the better — but even if you can't, sometimes the people who code need someone more firmly grounded in usability to review their "fix" and see if it really does fix the problem.
Take a look at the usability issue queue and see if any of the issues there can use the kind of help you can offer. And if your expertise also extends to accessibility, we sure could use your help with the issues remaining in the accessibility issue queue.
After all, the only holdup on Drupal 7 is getting all those critical issues and bugs fixed. ;-)
Welcome aboard!
D7 Sandbox Site for people to use...
If you don't have the inclination or ability to install Drupal 7 yourself, check out the sandbox I've created at: http://d7sandbox.net. If you register, you even have a bunch of perms (though certainly not all for security reasons).
Also, I know that most of the testing I've don't on Drupal 7 has been fresh installs for patches on test sites that have 5 test nodes, and certainly no contrib modules. At d7sandbox, you'll find a working site with a modicum of real content (about D7 and reports on various issues in the D7 queue). Check it out!
Also, if you have a D7 contrib module (or even a theme) that you've created or upgraded from D6, and you want to test out on a live D7 site, ping me and more than likely I'd be happy to install it.
From what I've seen so far, D7 has some great improvements and innovations, but there is a lot of cleaning up to do.
Shai
http://content2zero.com
http://d7sandbox.net
Shai Gluskin
Content2zero
Correct.
What needs to happen now is people testing the current alpha version and reporting any bugs they find.
Hello.
I'm a designer and I've been building, using and designing Drupal sites since version 4.5 (back in 2004). (Anyone else remember Flexinode?)
Anyway, I've always wanted to be able to contribute back to the community outside of helping others with design, CSS, markup, site config, etc., but haven't had the outlet for it like the developers do. I would love to give back in the capacity of design and usability.
By the way, I'm vnotion on IRC.
If you can review code, see issue 558928
The latest proposed patch cleans up a lot of haphazard code, makes Drupal forms far more accessible, and in doing so is a major step toward improving the usability of D7. After all, D7 isn't yet usable if your use case is "must be completely accessible."
A small group — most notably, mgifford, Everett Zufelt, and brandonojc — have been working hard on this patch. It is (or is very close to being) ready to be tagged RTBC (reviewed by the community/ready to be committed [to core]). They could use help. If you can offer it, check Issue 558928: Form element labeling is inconsistent, inflexible and bad for accessibility.
Thanks!
Cliff