Adding Education to an existing Drupal 5 site

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glennnz@drupal.org's picture

Hi

I have an existing Drupal 5.16 site for our organisation. We have been looking at integrating Moodle to provide education services, but want to investigate using DrupalEd instead.

The reasons are:

  1. Moodle replicates a lot of the functionality of Drupal so there is a large amount of redundancy (e.g. user accounts, events);
  2. The Moodle API code is horribly written. It is fundamentally flawed, and possibly inherently insecure.

Is there a tarball package with the required modules for me to add DrupalEd to my existing site?

Thanks

Glenn

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DrupalEd download

DrupalEd for Drupal 5

frank ralf's picture

You might also have a look at this thread:

From DrupalEd 5.6 to DrupalEd 6
http://groups.drupal.org/node/15964

hth
Frank

If you have an existing site

btopro's picture

If you have an existing site w/ existing usage I'd build something around that instead of getting a pre-packaged build like DrupalEd involved. Helps you better understand what all's going on w/o needing to learn how DrupalEd is handling views and the like and fit that into your current workflow (or visa versa). Never build two systems separately and merge after the fact (Droomla ain't happening any time soon.. ;) ).

Totally IMO though.

"Plaguing the world with Drupal; One Plone, Moodle, Wordpress, Joomla user at a time since 2005." ~ btopro

http://elearning.psu.edu/
http://elearning.psu.edu/projects/
http://elearning.psu.edu/drupalineducation/

"Droomla ain't happening any

Lobos's picture

"Droomla ain't happening any time soon.. ;)"

Droomla was just released today that allows you to integrate Drupal inside of Joomla. This is a complete integration that allows you to share users and content seamlessly across both platforms.

http://droomla.corephpdemos.com/

What are you actually selling?

bonobo's picture

From looking at your site, it's unclear what you actually expect people to pay $99 for.

Is this is a hosted service?

Or something that can be downloaded and installed anywhere?

Although I will admit, I'm having a hard time seeing an actual use case for this.

Cheers,

Bill

Hi Bill, Droomla is basically

Lobos's picture

Hi Bill,

Droomla is basically Drupal running as a Joomla component allowing for full intergration of Drupal into Joomla. In effect it allows you to run Drupal and Joomla alongside each other, sharing user authentication and functionality. Droomla offers full access to all Drupal modules and such as well. This is not about a bridge, whereby you are still using one or the other causing a redundancy in templates / themes and the inability to display output merged together, we are talking about a system that effectively merges output from both cms and offers a seamless experience to the end user.

If you look at the demo site you will see that this is indeed the case with blogs and such appearing inside the Joomla CMS, retaining original functionality. Essentially it allows you to harness all the functionality of these two great CMS under one roof.

We are also very excited to have integrated the JCE content editor into the Drupal textfield input areas opening up a whole new world of WYSIWYG support for Drupal (most of us know that it is quite an effort to get WYSIWYG running properly in Drupal, especially with image upload support - you can see this demonstrated here:

http://www.corephp.com/templates/corephp/images/products/droomla/backend...

In the end it's all about expanding your options - Joomla and Drupal both have appox 7000 extensions, why not have approx 14000 to choose from?

Very strange project

ronliskey's picture

Very strange project

  1. It adds complexity, performance, and security issues while creating largely redundant features. This seems akin to squeezing a Porsche and Ferrari together and calling the resulting monstrosity a Perrari. It would contain all the features of both, but why drive it?
  2. It attempts to privatize and sell at least four different sets of GPL code (Drupal, Joomla, JCE, and extCalendar),taking the traditional Joomla confusion over the GPL to a new low. For more on that tired old debate see:
  3. It looks like "jomCalendar" is yet another privatizing copy of the venerable extCal extension originally released under the GPL. (First copied by the "makers" of jCal.) The original extCal extension disappeared from the JED, and only these copies are now available to Joomla users. For what it's worth, below is a link to the extCalendar project. It would be great to see this beautiful calendar rescued from privatization.

  4. Configuring a Drupal WYSWYG editor with images is not difficult. It's not ready to go by default, but there are many great options which is why a default editor is not imposed. Input Filters and the Image Cache module are just two of many great reasons to use Drupal for WYSIWYG editing. Yes, JCE is very nice too.

Car analogy doesn't work

Lobos's picture
  1. Car analogy doesn't work here... we are opening up a world of possibilities for users and our clients are very happy with what we have done (yes we already have many subscribers). Most are Joomla users that love the ability to utilise Drupal's enhanced content management features. I think this is my favourite feature of Drupal, the unified way in which it handles content, the content management, it makes a great CCK for Joomla. This is mostly what it gets used for as Joomla looks after the framework type stuff, Drupal becomes just like any other CCK component for Joomla.

  2. Please contact the FSF if you have concerns about the legality of our enterprise in regards to the GPL. All out products are GPL btw read our TOS.

  3. Nope, Most definitely not, I wrote that myself, although I did use an existing EXTJS calendar widget to power the backend (this is GPL). Please cease and desist making these kind of groundless accusations as I find it very upsetting.

  4. Yes JCE is 10 levels above any other wysiwyg for either Joomla or Drupal (imo)

Very relieved to know that

ronliskey's picture

Very relieved to know that you are following the GPL. Thanks for the clarification.

I'd like to peek at the jomCalendar code. Could you post a link to where it can be downloaded? The only links I was able to find require the payment of a subscription fee.

That is correct, one is

Lobos's picture

That is correct, one is allowed to charge a distribution fee for GPL code. If you have any other queries please start a new thread as requested by Frank Ralf - Although first you might want to read this http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee . Thanks and have a nice day!

Ah! Thanks for that pointer.

ronliskey's picture

Ah! Thanks for that pointer. I really didn't know. Sorry for my tone. Wishing your project all the best.

I may start charging for code myself. Opens up a new world of possibilities. :-)

Didn't start a new thread because I was responding directly to this one. I think Frank was referring more to your product announcement as worthy of its own thread.

Eiither way, thanks for the education.
Over and out.

Still don't get it, but...

bonobo's picture

Then again, I don't need to.

Integrating Joomla with Drupal to get a WYSIWYG seems like a lot of work (no to mention a lot of cruft code to maintain).

RE the ability to charge a download fee, that is definitely guaranteed under the GPL, as is the right to freely redistribute GPL'ed code for no fee at all:

However, if someone pays your fee and gets a copy, the GPL gives them the freedom to release it to the public, with or without a fee. For example, someone could pay your fee, and then put her copy on a web site for the general public.

Cheers,

Bill

hmmmm

Lobos's picture

Then again, I don't need to.

yawn did you see that great netball match last night? I think it might be cloudy with a bit of rain tomorrow... ah what where we talking about? Oh that's right, how pointless you think Droomla is... well yes I guess some people might feel that way, and others might feel that Droomla is cool (http://www.pbwebdev.com.au/blog/drupal-joomla-droomla), me I don't really care either way; I just like to code and if people find what I make to be handy well good, if not well that's good as well... cya!

netball?

bonobo's picture

For those who don't know what Netball is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netball

Thank you for providing something of interest in this thread - I had never heard of netball until today.

Cheers,

Bill

I really just don't get it.

tommyent's picture

I really just don't get it. I think it's cool if it works but not sure it's all that useful.
Why would you want to do this?
I know most Drupal end users complain that there are just so many modules they don't know where to start.
What is it that you could accomplish with Joomla that you couldn't with Drupal?
So do you now have 2 code bases and 2 databases?
Security?

In the end it's all about expanding your options - Joomla and Drupal both have appox 7000 extensions, why not have approx 14000 to choose from?

In the end it should be about quality modules not quantity of.

I really just don't get it. I

Lobos's picture

I really just don't get it. I think it's cool if it works but not sure it's all that useful.

>>Why would you want to do this?

Well one example is that if you have a Joomla site and you want to use Drupals cool content management features, like multi-user blog, etc. Or you could be a Drupal user that wants to use a nice Joomla template like you see available here:

http://demo.rockettheme.com/ or
http://www.yootheme.com/

Or it could be that you are a Joomla dev and a client needs something that is available to Drupal and you don't have time to convert it (or visa versa). Prolly many more reasons that I can't think of :)

So do you now have 2 code bases and 2 databases?
Security?

Droomla is as secure as Joomla and Drupal. Plus if drupal needs updating it is just a one click install of Droomla - we keep Drupal updated for ya ;)

In the end it should be about quality modules not quantity of.
I would rather have more than less - both platforms have their quality modules / components. And in some areas one is stronger than the other...

Anyways no one is saying that you have to use Droomla, it's just an option among many...

Please start a new thread

frank ralf's picture

... instead of hijacking this rather old and obsolete one.

You might even find more people interested in your discussion ;-)

tia
Frank

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