Usability

http://drupal.org/node/83806

Posted here for completeness, please head over to that thread for comments about the report specifically.

Things done well:
- Including the larger Drupal community in the audience.
- Making clear distinctions about audiences and their needs where appropriate.
- Friendly license.
- The report was well-informed from a Drupal development perspective, such as mentioning themeability where appropriate.

A few people in my office space have been editing content on a CVS Drupal site I'm involved with. Here are a few issues that came up:

• The preview is confusing. The shortened version and the long version run together.

This could be blamed on me as a themer since I haven't bnothered to theme those. However, I'm not sure that I should have to worry about those.

Some suggestions for making them better by default:
- Use the new clear-block class so images and other tall content don't flow into each other.
- Put some sort of highlighting which separate the previews and makes the "preview" headers stand out. (disclaimer: I'm using yui reset.css which manages to undo some of drupal.css)

    "amazon"    How would you describe yourself as a Drupal administrator
"amazon"    ?
"beginner2005"  You mean my level of experience and Drupal qualifications?
"amazon"    sure
"amazon"    beginner2005: do you want me to clarify?
"beginner2005"  well I'm certainly not an expert and my username is still beginner: http://drupal.org/user/23181 I maintain the phpbb2drupal.module, and take care of www.reuniting.info and www.wechange.org . I am starting to know well how works in the inside, which makes admin tasks easier to grok.
"beginner2005"  yes, if I didn't reply your question properly :)
"amazon"    no, that's a good answer

"amazon" How would you describe yourself as a Drupal administrator?
"interviewee" Wet-behind-the-ears, enquiring
"amazon" Have you installed Drupal?
"interviewee" Yes
"amazon" have you worked on more than one site?
"interviewee" ... with Drupal?
"amazon" yes
"interviewee" Yes
"amazon" How frequently do you administer your Drupal site?
"interviewee" For the first site, maybe once a fortnight - less since the administrator switched to Drupal, actually. For the second, it's a brand-new experimental installation, so not frequently
"interviewee" not at all, really
"amazon" How long do you administer your Drupal site in a single sitting approximately?

"amazon" How would you describe yourself as a Drupal administrator?
"interviewee" I am very new to Drupal, so I consider myself very inexperienced but a fast learner. I have been a web technologist for 8 plus years
"amazon" ok
"amazon" How frequently do you administer your Drupal site?
"interviewee" I administer my site frequently if not daily.
"interviewee" I have already created modules which basically tie into my everday workflow.. so I am constantly on my drupal sites
"amazon" How long do you administer your Drupal site in a single sitting approximately?
"interviewee" Depends how you define administration. I create content, fix bugs, etc.. somedays I could sit for half a day, others could be 30min.

How would you describe yourself as a Drupal administrator?
"amazon" do you want to do skype?
"interviewee" I'm fine with irc if that's okay with you, don't have a mic here at work
"amazon" IRC then
"amazon" go ahead with the question
"interviewee" I'd say that I'm an experienced drupal administrator, though I only tend to work with small community sites.
"interviewee" (ie, no big-scale Onion sized stuff)
"amazon" what kinds of experience
"interviewee" I started out by tinkering and setting up my own site, learning how to download and configure modules. Now I work a lot with the code side of things and have a better understanding of what's going on "behind the scenes." So I'm usually able to make my way through confusing administrative tasks, but stuff can still slow me down or force me to check the handbook sometimes.

How would you describe yourself as a Drupal administrator?
-quite experienced

How frequently do you administer your Drupal site?
-Daily

How long do you administer your Drupal site in a single sitting approximately?
-several sittings over the day. Ban this user. look at this 30 minutes a day.

Neil has requested more information about what users use Drupal for. Try out some of the questions below to help us come up with the right question.
-How does Drupal help you accomplish your goals as a Drupal Administrator

-Why do you use Drupal?

-How does Drupal help the users of your Drupal site?

    "amazon"    How would you describe yourself as a Drupal administrator?
"fireangel" kk
"fireangel" i just saw messages in console, they were blocking my messages
"fireangel" ill register soon
"amazon"    ok
"fireangel" right now im still building my first website with drupal, which is not live yet, but its a huge project so
"fireangel" it`ll be a social networking site for life scientists, with everything they need there
"amazon"    how's your skill level with Drupal?
"amazon"    with administering Drupal
"fireangel" i'd say beginner / intermediate, i played with it and didnt encountered any difficulties up so far, with the core at least

As I've started "W3C compliant CSS"-issue (http://drupal.org/node/70296) as a wish, it was the first one in the chain of validitaion.

The main critism of warning-free css-validation is the "inherit" argument, which changes nothing visible, but is needed by W3C-validation (warning free).

In my opinion there is a difference between an "explicit defined default" and an "undefined default", cause the "explicit defined" says: Yes, I'm sure, that I want to do this.
As we are experienced webusers, we know that the warning of "undefined color" doesn't make visible sense. But it's one of my most-hated questions customers asks me twice a month: "Why does your site so much validation warnings, although you are working active for accessibility?".