Posted by noneck on August 3, 2006 at 6:45pm
I hope everyone is aware of this blog that was just launched yesterday... http://assembleforrightsnyc.blogspot.com/
if anyone is interested in turning this into a drupal site email me... i can't program, and i can't stand for these rules!
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Keep Our Sidewalks Free!
It's just a straight blog/ news page? Or am I missing something here? I might have a bit of time coming up to fit it in.
Mike
Read the top post
To sum it up.
The NYPD is attempting to modify the parade rules to include the following:
35 or more people in a group is a parade
20 or more cyclists in a group is a parade
2 (yes 2) or more people or cyclists that disobey traffic rule (i.e. jaywalk, or skip through a red light) are a parade.
If you are considered a parade and you do not have a parade permit then you may be ticketed and/or arrested.
examples: During DrupalCamp we, as a group, decide to walk or( gasp) ride our bikes down to the store but they are 50 of us in a group. BAM! we're a parade and thus would require a parade permit or risk getting a fine.. All because we were thirsty.
-Jacob Redding
-Jacob Redding
with all these changes to our freedoms...
I think that maybe it is time to start a movement to re-name our city.
"New East Berlin" seems to sum up the reality of what is going on these days, eh?
sweet!
mike, what can you offer??
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What do you need? 2 col? 3
What do you need? 2 col? 3 col? Fixed width (hopefully)? Got a color scheme in mind/ any usable graphics, or do you need me to roll my own?
Mike
Wow, group effort at work!
Hi Mike, I certainly don't have much on hand to give you. Cruise over to the site and create an account and I'll give you a role to admin themes and blocks and such. Make sure you give a proper e-mail as I'll send you FTP access through that. Would you need shell access?
You can get me through the site contact form.
CNDP, LLC
in a nutshell... blogspot
ok, so per my post-dinner bell conversation with Will from http://onNYturf.com - he wants a simple to use interface. plain and basic - just like blogspot. the goal is to have a site for people to take direct action and not get lost in the rounded corners. ;)
so mike if you and sam can start chatting and figure something out, that would be AWESOME. in the meantime, i'm going back to the txt editor to write up a verbal wireframe.
noel
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Hey Noel
I e-mailed you through your contact form with a URL to a mock-up on my server. Let me know if you didn't get it for any reason.
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thanks, sam... i'm conserned about hosting...
i wanna first say i'd like to keep all conversations completely open for anyone to comment. in regards to this issue; i have nothing to hide and think that comments from others will be VERY helpful.
i created an account, can you give me admin rights and i'll start poking around and cleaning up some errors... a few questions on hosting... do you have the ability to host this site. it would be great if we could have a system where we could give people SSH/FTP accounts to developers to they can add and modify the site as we progress? if not i'm thinking of creating a sub-domain on dreamhost and just publishing the admin info for anyone to help...
you know, a open-source grassroots project - consider it a massive wiki... ;)
anyone have a system that can backup servers every 18 hours or so?
noel
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Why 18 hours? Expecting
Why 18 hours? Expecting hacker attacks? A huge user base? Most hosts will offer daily incremental backups (or raid), and weekly full backups. I deal in mostly dedicated servers, not sure if that's going to be the same with shared services. Perhaps a vds?
Hosting
I'm fine with it being on my hosting at least through development, maybe longer. This is one of a multi-site install (that's how I got it up so quick(no pun intended, jerks.)) Anyone who needs FTP or SSH should let me know and I can set up an account and password for them. I too am wondering about the 18 hours bit. I back things up fairly regularly (and really need to find the time to automate it soon), but is there some magic to that number?
Also, not to disagree, but I'm happy giving proper permissions to anyone at all who needs or wants them, but my experience in giving admin access to everyone working on a site was that I ended up fixing the broken site or moderating between disagreeing developers.
P.S. I did, however just give you admin rights.
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before you re-invent the wheel...
warning, I have not had coffee yet and am having dental issues, so I might come across more grumpy than intended...
Instead of launching this on a whim, I'd suggest that you start by contacting and collaborating with the groups already working on this issue. Help Transportation Alternatives or Times Up get an interesting website running. Build with others doing the organizing work.
Just my own bias against one-person-gonna-save-the-world sorta actions, which I think your website falls into. Build a movement, not a blog!
Maybe I misunderstood
I'm gonna jump right past the initial thought that came into my mind, (grassroots small organizations joining forces counter the stagnant paradigm of needing critical mass in an organization to affect change) and jump right to the part thats about drupal.
I read into this that the point of converting this into a Drupal site was so that the people who are currently working with ahem blogspot would have a much more robust toolset for ...ummm... building a movement. Indeed, the point of moving it to drupal would be so it wasn't "just a blog" but a mailing list, discussion forum, image gallery, and google map ++.
Is their no more room for additional movements in this city? "Build with others doing the organizing work" - isn't that what is being proposed?
To me, part of drupal's greatness is that it allows groups, no matter the size, the ability to organize and create a strong web presence. Personally, I think while this site has a lot in common with the groups you mentioned, it also fills a neat nitch that those sites don't reach. i.e. car driving, non-enviromentally friendly people who like to walk in large groups.
On another note, I make a point of drinking coffee before running down other peoples idea's. I like to do that highly caffeinated ;) Seriously, hope your teeth feel better soon.
P.S. Transportation Alternatives and Times Up both have rather nice websites already...
http://www.transalt.org/
http://www.times-up.org/
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i'd like to thank the anonymous poster...
first, thanks for being anonymous! i don't know who you are, but comments like this make me want to prove that drupal (as a tool) can change the world.
second, my email was more along the lines of a call to arms.
third, i know the organizers very well. so, when it comes down to grassroots style - let's shake the monkey from the tree action. i'm more along the lines of thinking of what might best work for this situation, presenting it by saying "here we built this for you!"
this type of call to arms, can benefit from a few things...
remember this is up to us to create... there is no money behind this project... there is no central organizing committee...
THIS IS ABOUT OUR FREEDOM!!!
for now the slate is clean and we as activist, technologist, programers, designers, ahem - HUMANS have an opportunity to ensure we don't lose our freedom to walk down the street as we please.
so, how do we do this... i'm thinking of forming another drupal group for project management...
for now sam t. has set up http://rights-nyc.treslerdesigns.com/
beyond the 3 things state above, i think we need a nice theme nothing crazy, just something that's easier to use than just a wireframe.
I think this is a great start we just need more thoughts. please speak up...
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Working...
1) Event Finder - Is still 4.6 I'll look into CVS, but this might be normal event.module or some combination of other things.
2) Media Center - I'm tempted to make this a Vocabulary with terms "pamphlet", "Video", "Podcast or music" for images, blogs, audio nodes, pages. Primary links will dropdown to the type of media.
3) Video - You can embed all those into a drupal Blogpost or Page...ater that see #2. Otherwise, we can upload and reference from the /files folder.
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I coul try out the relatively new Video module if we wanted to host ourselves... Let me know what would be best.
4) Gmaps support to show location of events and location of supporters.
5) Forums to discuss strategy, discern group opinion, etc.
6) Audio Suppot: for podcasts, etc.
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Awesome
I have been thinking about this for a while now but I just don't have the time to get it done.
There are currently four sites that I check regularly for my "NYC Bike" News
Times-up.org
Transalt.org
Streetsblog.org
bikeblog.blogspot.com
They are all great and people know about them BUT they are missing
(a) Events pages
(b) Video (there is a lot of Video out there)
(c) Photo collections (There is a lot of Flickr groups based around these issues)
(d) A gmap of tickets, illegal police activity (no that wasn't an oxymoron), etc.
You guys are making me very, very happy that this is in the works and I'd love to help out where I can. At this point I don't have the time to lead or take on a project mgmt position. However I'm up for being lead. I'm your sheep.
I've gots skills in PHP, Drupal, System Admin and Content creation (sorry I suck at Graphic design and layout)
My final suggestion would be to try to incorporate somehow with Bikeblog or Streetsblog but time is of the essence with this latest thing so the faster we get this up the better (aggregation would be a good first step too)
-Jacob "bbaaahhh" Redding
-Jacob Redding
features round up...
ok, thinking though this, it's all got to be mad simple. target audience (in theoretical terms) is middle class AOL manhattan users; ie not to inet savvy, vote, walk down the street with their kids, and have never thought of this argument beyond critical mass or RNC protests.
website features...
front page with the same info that exist on current site. on right side bar - 6 things to do, below, blogs that link here.
tabs across the top...
blog... events and news as they come in... we want to keep people posted with developments and "other updates" - for example rev billy being kicked out of seaport mall.
events... let's just have a listing of events and enable comments. if we wanna be down and dirt and have something running by tues or wed we just need the ability for people to post events and for them to say - "i'll be there handing out flyers!!!" google map integration would be great, but if we could somehow tie in will's http://onnyturf.com subway map googlemap layer that would be OMFG HOT!
media center... (flyers, posters, talking points) i think this can be handled through books and taxonomies. i'm going to takle this one over tomorrow's morning coffee...
videos... well, i think there are a few ways of doing this, but for now. i'm going to think we'll have people toss up imbed youtube or google video. for now light and flexible. though, if we get a press hit, i'd like to upload a quicktime video... though, maybe the campaign will just stick to youtube... (thoughts anyone????)
audio... TOTALLY, how could i have forgotten! you know what would be super hot?!?! a myspace audio flash player people could embed on their blog or social networking site...
forums... hummmm, i like it. brings people back, keeps content fresh, but i'm not exactly sure if it's something they want to start off with off the bat. it might get people confused. for now i have set up another drupal group for moderation and site admining - http://groups.drupal.org/assemble-for-rights-nyc (if anyone is interested in helping admin join and send me a message, i'll add you as a group mod too...)
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OK
I think I can get most of that done this evening. I've been playing with different embeddable audio players, and Drupals audio mod. Now might be a a good time for me to 'plug & play' as it were.
CNDP, LLC
What happened to the group...
it existed for me this morning.
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sorry
at the request of groups.drupal admins, they have asked me to remove the group. sorry, but i am working on alternate plans.
maybe a google group, but as i said i want to harness the power of drupal, but not explicitly on the site... light and flexible!
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Event finder...er....
Event finder is not really necessary for a site like this, all you need are events, with locations enabled. you will want everyone to come to every event really.... event finder was really about searching and registering for events, right?
Gmap and maybe mapthing: mapthing lets you map users based upon their location as a contact in civicrm, while gmap allows users to pick arbitrary points.
How about a little OG? let people create their own little groups of friends to organize direct action, which now means jaywalking with more than 2 people, or riding the wrong way on a one way street with more than 2 people. imagine 100 little mini actions all over the place, imagine 1000?
Lastly: let there be seedcampaign! the most important module for this site IMHO is seedcampaign (LTE and citizen speak) allowing users to send letters to every city council person, the BPs, police, and letters to the local news outlets!
http://www.CivicActions.com
http://www.GregoryHeller.com
http://GregoryHeller.com
Report:
-Free Tagging Vocabulary enabled.
-Image Galleries up.
That covers all our basic functionality I think. Am I forgetting anything?
Optional Nexts. OG - I think we should wait n this one till we have a few dozens users to be groups.
Aggregator - Can anyone suggest feeds?
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Feed Suggestions
http://www.streetsblog.org/
I would suggest bikeblog.blogspot.org but the maintainer just headed for a month long vacation (which is cool but the site will be stagnant for a while)
-Jacob Redding
-Jacob Redding