DrupalCampNYC 7 Intro Track Follow Up

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winston's picture

Just had this information come in from the documentation mailing list. I think it would probably be very apropos for anyone who attended the intro track.

Yesterday, I created a screencast which is a beginners guide to installing Drupal at the command line, I noticed 4 different kinds of "users" or "user accounts" that needed mentioning: the computer user, the database user, Drupal's user/1 and all other Drupal users.

So I wrote a handbook page background piece, aimed at beginners, to distinguish clearly between these different "users."

Here is the handbook page: http://drupal.org/node/660468.

And his screencast can be found at http://content2zero.com/setting-drupal-site-command-beginners

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Can't get into blip.tv

iwoman's picture

I attempted to follow the link above to the screencast but got this message: "You are not authorized to see this post". I logged in at blip.tv, but still no go. Any suggestions/remedies/alternatives?

Hmm

winston's picture

I'll check with the person who posted it.

quid.oblitus's picture

I've been using a "budget" hosting operation ~$7.00/month.

That company does not provide terminal access. And I was under the impression that SSH access was not that widely available on budget accounts.

It's possible I'm wrong and wonder whether anyone in the NYC drupal community has seen any reliable guide to hosting services that do provide terminal access.

Thanks for the helpful post.

Most hosting providers will

orbgasm's picture

Most hosting providers will enable ssh access upon request. In the case of Bluehost for example, all you need to do is send in a scanned image (or fax it in) of the account holder's ID.

Hybrid VPS Hosting with SSH at Hot Drupal

decibel.places's picture

I am really happy with Hot Drupal which offers tiered plans up to VPS at good rates.

SSH is available as well as ffmpeg and they are very Drupal-centric. Support is quick and they recently helped me set up Drush which led to some suggestions for the Drush documentation http://drupal.org/node/652840

I am paying about $160/year for the 2nd level plan and I expect to upgrade soon. Payments are billed quarterly so there is no long-term commitment.

I am running two live sites on that account, and a few dev ones. Today the AP covered Faith the Dog and visits spiked over 4K and were handled well.

It's not true at all that "most" hosting companies allow SSH - most shared hosting plans do NOT have SSH. I have turned on SSH at BlueHost but when I try to do anything with it besides look, their customer support says "that was disabled for security" - for example I tried to set up SVN and they said they stopped allowing it. My own "budget" reseller shared hosting does not allow SSH.

You may be right about 'most'

orbgasm's picture

You may be right about 'most' hosting companies, but so far I have had minimal problems getting SSH working, and generally more established hosting providers will enable certain features for you upon request.

For example, I currently have SSH access on a drupal box, dreamhost, hostgator, and lunar pages. None of which are my preferences by any means, but they work for the clients and they are reasonable, affordable solutions. I haven't encountered any major permissions limitations, and where that has been the case, I haven't had an problems opening a ticket and getting what I need done.

If you are going to be running Drush, or any other terminal-based software, naturally you should be going with a higher-end hosting company.

I am an advocate of getting a 'real' or 'solid' hosting plan, but in the case of those that can't afford it, or simply don't need it as they don't get that much traffic, I don't see a problem.

Sorry to hear about your budget reseller shared hosting!

Hot Drupal and CDN

decibel.places's picture

I say "If it works don't fix it."

Today FTD had over 15K views and the Hot Drupal admin set up a CDN server for media (video, mp3, images) and helped me set up the redirects, for no extra charge.

After I botched a couple redirects hand-editing .htaccess, Steve said "Why don't you just click on the Redirect button in cPanel like I do?" :DOH: ! (it's nice to have an owner who calls you on the phone and knows your name, and you know his)

I upgraded to Platinum to ensure sufficient bandwidth, $132.30/3 months (or $49.95/mo) and paid the prorated difference - 12 GB disk space 350000MB bandwidth, not bad.

BTW if any hosting company tells you they have "unlimited" bandwidth and/or disk space, they are lying - it's not possible!

Actually I am the reseller of the budget LAMP hosting that starts at $4/mo with data centers in CA and UK and free domain and 30 day money-back guarantee and great customer service and my customers are really happy - so who cares if they don't have SSH? They have Fantastico to install Drupal and Joomla and Wordpress (yeah, I know, but it's nice if you don't know how) shameless plug: http://netsperience-web-hosting.com

quid.oblitus's picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkK392gkuU

It's a fragment of a 3 Hour video tutorial that costs $75.00.

I wonder whether new-to-drupal people in the NYC drupal user's group would be willing to purchase this (and other useful training materials) and hit upon a regular day of the month and location where interested new-to-drupal people could go, watch anything new and generally discuss stuff.

Count me in for $7.50 towards a purchase of this video. I suspect Lullabot won't have a problem with this on the rights side.

The new-to-drupal breakaway sessions during the monthly NYC drupal group meetings have been very helpful, but it did mean that John or Peter and the new-to-drupal would have miss super presentations that reinforce why learning drupal is worthwhile.

According to the license for

ezra-g's picture

According to the license for the videos (http://store.lullabot.com/faq#n124), displaying them publicly requires Lullabot's consent. However, we have far more than enough expertise and talent in our local community to present similar material, with the benefit of real live humans to answer questions, at local meetups :) .

support also available on drupal.org IRC and Twitter

decibel.places's picture

Support is also available from the phenomenal Drupal community at http://drupal.org (usually a search of the posts there will answer your question since someone has probably asked it before).

There is also an IRC channel #drupal-support on freenode.net (there are many other Drupal channels there too)

There is also a lot of activity on Twitter at #Drupal and #Acquia if you prefer asking short questions and getting short answers

:) Yes, Lullabot would have to agree

quid.oblitus's picture

And I agree that having live people there to answer questions is a good idea.

It is, however, a lot of work to prepare a good extended presentation. If there was a separate new-to-drupal meeting then it may be that:

(1) Pre-scheduled good, timely presentations would both attract some people and serve as a focus for discussion, and

(2) There is a fair chance that some not-so-new-to-drupal folk would show at these meetings to answer questions.

thread drift?

decibel.places's picture

I am partly responsible here, but shouldn't we discuss a new meetup on its own thread? It would probably be better placed on the DrupalNYC main group http://groups.drupal.org/new-york-city

Cross post: Intro to drupal theming

quid.oblitus's picture

Aaron Couch posted this on the Drupal Camp 7 Presentations page. It's the full-day Zivtech theme introduction mentioned during the DrupalCamp 7 presentation.

I post it here because it's possible someone who was at the Intro Track might have missed the post, but also because there may be some visitors to this page who are general new-comers with no particular DrupalCamp 7 awareness.

Question re content2zero screencast on drush

quid.oblitus's picture

The screencast uses drush to intall drupal using cvs - it asks you to enter this command:

$ cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous@cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal co -r DRUPAL-6-14 drupal

Only local images are allowed.

Question: If your hosting plan does not provide cvs site-wide, if one decides to install drush and not install cvs, can one install drupal in a directory that's in drush's path and get some functionality from drush, or does drush require an installed cvs package to do all or much of what it's designed to do?

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